Zogby: Obama Leads in Electoral College 273-158;
Barr Badly Hurting McCain
Zogby reports:
July 06, 2008
Zogby Poll: Building Mo-bama! Democrat Leads McCain in Electoral College Tally, 273-158
The Democrat also leads 44% to 38% in the nationwide horserace test as Libertarian Bob Barr wins 6%
UTICA, New York – As the race for President passes the Independence Day holiday and heads toward the dog days of summer, Sen. Barack Obama holds a 44% to 38% lead over Sen. John McCain in the horserace contest, but also leads by a substantial margin in a state-by-state Electoral College tally, a new Zogby Interactive poll shows.
The extensive national poll of of 46,274 likely voters also shows Libertarian candidate and former Congressman Bob Barr wins 6% support, eating into McCain’s needed conservative base of support.
The online survey was conducted from June 11-30, 2008. It carries a margin of error of 0.5 percentage points. After nearly a decade in development, the Zogby Interactive survey on a state level was remarkably accurate in the 2006 midterm elections. In 18 U.S. Senate elections polled two years ago, the Zogby online survey correctly identified the winner of 17 of 18 races, and in the 18th race – in Missouri, it was still within the margin of error, though it had Republican Jim Talent winning (he was defeated narrowly by Democrat Claire McCaskill).
Zogby’s Electoral College Count
7-7-2008
Obama: 273
McCain: 158
Undecided: 105
This latest extensive survey of all 50 states reveals that while Obama holds a narrow lead in the national preference test, he holds a substantial advantage right now in the Electoral College. Using this survey - and an average of other public state polls in certain states to corroborate the Zogby results – Zogby calculates that Obama leads McCain, 273-158. A total of 11 states with 105 electoral votes are within the margin of error and therefore too close to call. A candidate needs 270 to be elected President.
Neither Obama nor McCain breaks a 50% favorable rating. Obama is viewed as very or somewhat favorable by 49.7%. For McCain, that number is 43.2%.
Pollster John Zogby: “Obama is in the driver’s seat right now, especially where it really counts - in the electoral votes. Bob Barr could really hurt McCain’s chances. McCain can’t afford the level of slippage to Barr we found among conservatives in this polling. While there has been plenty of talk about Obama’s recent emphasis on his centrist positions, he can get away with it during these dog days of the campaign as McCain finds himself still trying to shore up the conservative base. McCain will have to move to the center because right now Obama is clobbering him among independents. But there is the rub for McCain: Bob Barr has some juice among conservatives and is hurting him in several states. ”
Bob Barr receives the support of 7% of voters who identify themselves as conservative or very conservative voters. Barr gets 43% of libertarians and 11% of independents. McCain’s support among conservatives is 74%. On the left, Ralph Nader gets less than 2% nationally.
Obama has the support of 83% of Democrats, while McCain gets 75% of Republicans.
Independents break 39% for Obama, compared with 31% who support McCain.
For white voters, race doesn’t appear to be playing a significant factor. McCain leads Obama, 43%-39%, with Barr at 6%. Among black voters, Obama wins the vast majority of support.
For a complete methodological statement on this survey, please visit [this site].


7 Comments:
McCain's chance of winning is very small. The Republications know that better than most, which is why you see the media incessantly repeating that McCain's Iraq policy is identical to Obama's!
They know that the American public is against the war, so they try to neutralize this weakness. However, I think McCain will lose even if Iraq is not an issue. There is no way the people would reward an incumbent party while the economy in free-fall. There is also what I call the Michael Foot syndrome: Foot was the leader of the Labour Party in the UK but he was very old and looked decrepit. Close to the eletctions people were saying "just look at him." A leader not only has to be strong, he/she has to look it.
Ralph Nader was all over the television yesterday, claiming over 5% based upon a CNN poll. The Barr number seems high to me.
I thought that McCain would get some "bounce" over the Colombia hostage rescue. He apparently traveled down there especially for that.
I think, as an interesting footnote, that Barr will actually create an "opportunity" for certain states that haven't elected a Democrat president in ages to go for Obama.
For example, if under ordinary circumstances Obama would only get 45% to a McCain 50%, the Barr effect will actually cause a split in the right wing voters allowing Obama to win with 40ish% of the votes in a particular otherwise red state.
This is going to have an interesting affect IMHO from the "mandate" perspective of the Obama presidency and a ripple down affect in dems doing better in Congressional and local elections.
However, I think McCain will lose even if Iraq is not an issue. There is no way the people would reward an incumbent party while the economy in free-fall.
Do not let the ongoing serial war crime, the worst crime our nation has ever committed, "not be an issue".
Do not vote for anyone you don not want to be president. There are millions of good Americans. There is no reason to vote for one of the duopol clones.
It is true that eight-years of one of the duopols seems "naturally" to lead to eight-more years of the other duopol. Look at Clinton/Bush. But we can do better than the lemmings.
We can exercise our reason and act not en masse just because we are acted upon en masse but as the individual human beings we are.
I personally know scores of individuals who would make a better president than either of the duopols and I am going to vote for one of them. I have no problem bringing a pencil to the polls and penciling one in.
And that's what each one of us needs to do. Never to vote again for someone we do not want to be president.
The duopol candidates of the ancien regime may act as spoilers one last time in 2008, but they may not. And certainly after this election they will have been consigned to the "dustbin of history", to use one of the corny phrases adopted, en masse by their "mainstream mass media".
Do not let the holocaust in the Middle East, the murder of a million blameless Iraqis, Afghans... may it never include Iranians... for Oil and Greater Israel continue.
Sharpen your pencils. Just say no.
It is way too early to place faith in polls. There is plenty of dirty campaigning between now and November on both sides.
Besides, if anything the electoral math favors McCain. I'm hard put to see how Obama can win some of the industrial states-especially since it remains to be seen just how honest Hillary's support is for him.
Plus as the "alls well that ends well" myth about Iraq sinks in among the easily persuaded, it is Obama that loses on Iraq, because he has not been over there and done the necessary kissing of Petreaus' ring.
I would submit the election will be close 270+ to 270-. It will be that close and it could go either way.
44% and 38% and 6% = 88%; that extra missing 12% could make a big difference; complacency is no something to be discounted.
I tend to like Zogby's personal politics but mistrust his polls, which sometimes seem designed to produce results that he and his clients want to hear. Also, I think the "Bob Barr" factor is misleading. The percentage of people who actually VOTE for third-party candidates is usually smaller than the percentage who SAY they'll vote for them. Moreover, even stated support for third-party candidates tends to shrink as the actual election day nears. In all likelihood, most of the 6% that currently say they support Bob Barr will end up voting for McCain.
That said, however, the numbers so far look fairly good for Obama. Here's a website that tracks multiple surveys to compile an electoral vote prediction. Right now it's showing 320 votes for Obama, 218 for McCain:
http://www.electoral-vote.com/
Here's another approach to predicting the winner: Intrade.com, a sort of "stock market" where people trade political futures (as well as predictions on other possible future events):
http://www.intrade.com/
Right now shares of Obama are selling there for 64.9 cents on the dollar, while shares of McCain are selling for 30.5 cents. The idea behind Intrade.com is that when people have to put their money where their predictions are, the "wisdom of crowds" combined with a profit incentive will accurately model the probability of the outcome. If this is true, then currently Obama has about a 65% chance of winning in November.
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