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		<title>By: Alexno</title>
		<link>http://www.juancole.com/2009/10/liz-sly-reports-from-baghdad-on-three.html#comment-505</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eurofrank exaggerates a bit. We&#039;ve had any number of announcements that Israel is about to attack Iran. That may be the case, but it will not be announced in advance, and the reasons for the US to say no are still as valid as they were.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Eurofrank&#039;s link is to yet another Sunday Times article by Uzi Mahnaimi, well-known transmitter of semi-fictional stories from Israeli official sources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eurofrank exaggerates a bit. We&#39;ve had any number of announcements that Israel is about to attack Iran. That may be the case, but it will not be announced in advance, and the reasons for the US to say no are still as valid as they were.</p>
<p>Eurofrank&#39;s link is to yet another Sunday Times article by Uzi Mahnaimi, well-known transmitter of semi-fictional stories from Israeli official sources.</p>
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		<title>By: MonsieurGonzo</title>
		<link>http://www.juancole.com/2009/10/liz-sly-reports-from-baghdad-on-three.html#comment-504</link>
		<dc:creator>MonsieurGonzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;ref&lt;/i&gt; &lt;b&gt;: “&lt;/b&gt;As Liz Sly says, the US withdrawal timetable is premised upon there being elections in January...&lt;b&gt;”&lt;/b&gt; &lt;i&gt;NYTimes&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/09/world/middleeast/09pullout.html?_r=1&amp;scp=4&amp;sq=it%20takes%20an%20army&amp;st=cse&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The scale of the withdrawal from IRAQ is staggering&lt;/a&gt; &lt;b&gt;: “&lt;/b&gt;Commanders said they would closely watch the January elections for what they say about the reliability of Iraq’s security forces and the direction the country is heading. But for the planners of the withdrawal, there is no time left to wait and see. &quot;&lt;i&gt;You can’t wait for some big &lt;/i&gt;‘Aha!’&lt;i&gt; moment,&lt;/i&gt;&quot; said Brig. General Heidi Brown, a deputy commander overseeing the withdrawal. &quot;&lt;i&gt;That does not give you flexibility. That just puts you in a box.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;&lt;b&gt;”&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=104&amp;article=64867&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Stars and Stripes&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;b&gt;: “&lt;/b&gt;With more than two years left in the slow, regimented ending to a chaotic war, new rules placing tens of thousands of U.S. combat troops under virtual house arrest on their bases mean the American military increasingly finds itself a symbolic force in Iraq... Generally forbidden to patrol, the troops fill their days with training, maintaining equipment and packing up unneeded material for shipment out of Iraq. Iraqi security forces still have the option to conduct joint patrols with Americans or to request their help, but it almost never happens. American troops are almost invisible in Iraqi cities, moving in the dead of night, and then only with Iraqi permission.&lt;b&gt;”&lt;/b&gt; U.S. Army Colonel Timothy Reese, chief of the Baghdad Operations Command Advisory Team &lt;b&gt;: “&lt;/b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Our combat operations are currently the victim of circular logic. We conduct operations to kill or capture violent extremists of all types to protect the Iraqi people and support the &lt;/i&gt;[Iraqi government]&lt;i&gt;. The violent extremists attack us because we are still here conducting military operations&lt;/i&gt;&lt;b&gt;.”&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oh, by all means, Mr. President ~ let&#039;s let Generals Petraeus and McChrystal duplicate their IRAQ legacy of Bush/Cheney era circular &quot;counter-insurgency&quot; logic and humiliating, end-game effort to withdraw an emasculated, base-restricted force of &lt;i&gt;fobbits&lt;/i&gt; in AFGHANISTAN&lt;b&gt;!&lt;/b&gt; The Generals took our once-proud, crack assault troops and reduced them to the rôles of ‘Military Police’ ~ with big red, white &amp; blue targets painted on all their backs and on every vehicle ~ and for added insult to this hideous drip, drip of KIA and WIA injury the Generals then commanded our troops to act as ‘Drill Sergeants’ to train a folly army comprised of semi-literate, unreliable if not untrustworthy &quot;self-occupation force&quot; peasants &lt;i&gt;to be their replacements&lt;b&gt;!&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; As the counter-occupation guerrilla forces &lt;i&gt;Over There&lt;/i&gt; say&lt;b&gt;: “Yes, the Americans have the watches — &lt;i&gt;but we have the time.&lt;/i&gt;”&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>ref</i> <b>: “</b>As Liz Sly says, the US withdrawal timetable is premised upon there being elections in January&#8230;<b>”</b> <i>NYTimes</i>, <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/09/world/middleeast/09pullout.html?_r=1&amp;scp=4&amp;sq=it%20takes%20an%20army&amp;st=cse" rel="nofollow">The scale of the withdrawal from IRAQ is staggering</a> <b>: “</b>Commanders said they would closely watch the January elections for what they say about the reliability of Iraq’s security forces and the direction the country is heading. But for the planners of the withdrawal, there is no time left to wait and see. &quot;<i>You can’t wait for some big </i>‘Aha!’<i> moment,</i>&quot; said Brig. General Heidi Brown, a deputy commander overseeing the withdrawal. &quot;<i>That does not give you flexibility. That just puts you in a box.</i>&quot;<b>”</b> <a href="http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=104&amp;article=64867" rel="nofollow"><i>Stars and Stripes</i></a> <b>: “</b>With more than two years left in the slow, regimented ending to a chaotic war, new rules placing tens of thousands of U.S. combat troops under virtual house arrest on their bases mean the American military increasingly finds itself a symbolic force in Iraq&#8230; Generally forbidden to patrol, the troops fill their days with training, maintaining equipment and packing up unneeded material for shipment out of Iraq. Iraqi security forces still have the option to conduct joint patrols with Americans or to request their help, but it almost never happens. American troops are almost invisible in Iraqi cities, moving in the dead of night, and then only with Iraqi permission.<b>”</b> U.S. Army Colonel Timothy Reese, chief of the Baghdad Operations Command Advisory Team <b>: “</b><i>Our combat operations are currently the victim of circular logic. We conduct operations to kill or capture violent extremists of all types to protect the Iraqi people and support the </i>[Iraqi government]<i>. The violent extremists attack us because we are still here conducting military operations</i><b>.”</b></p>
<p>Oh, by all means, Mr. President ~ let&#39;s let Generals Petraeus and McChrystal duplicate their IRAQ legacy of Bush/Cheney era circular &quot;counter-insurgency&quot; logic and humiliating, end-game effort to withdraw an emasculated, base-restricted force of <i>fobbits</i> in AFGHANISTAN<b>!</b> The Generals took our once-proud, crack assault troops and reduced them to the rôles of ‘Military Police’ ~ with big red, white &amp; blue targets painted on all their backs and on every vehicle ~ and for added insult to this hideous drip, drip of KIA and WIA injury the Generals then commanded our troops to act as ‘Drill Sergeants’ to train a folly army comprised of semi-literate, unreliable if not untrustworthy &quot;self-occupation force&quot; peasants <i>to be their replacements<b>!</b></i> As the counter-occupation guerrilla forces <i>Over There</i> say<b>: “Yes, the Americans have the watches — <i>but we have the time.</i>”</b></p>
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		<title>By: Steve Connors</title>
		<link>http://www.juancole.com/2009/10/liz-sly-reports-from-baghdad-on-three.html#comment-502</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Connors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Al Zaman article says the hospital attack was a car bomb, not an explosives vest. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We see far too many reports of suicide bombings that are described as such without evidence. A car bombing - even with the driver still at the wheel - is not necessarily a suicide attack. Unless the means of detonation are reachable by the driver - and that&#039;s stated in the report - we should not assume that it&#039;s a suicide attack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Al Zaman article says the hospital attack was a car bomb, not an explosives vest. </p>
<p>We see far too many reports of suicide bombings that are described as such without evidence. A car bombing &#8211; even with the driver still at the wheel &#8211; is not necessarily a suicide attack. Unless the means of detonation are reachable by the driver &#8211; and that&#39;s stated in the report &#8211; we should not assume that it&#39;s a suicide attack.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 10:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remind me - were there bombings in Iraq prior to the US invasion and occupation?   hmmmmmmm  And, I am sure Bush/Cheney and their neo-con pals don&#039;t miss a wink of sleep over it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remind me &#8211; were there bombings in Iraq prior to the US invasion and occupation?   hmmmmmmm  And, I am sure Bush/Cheney and their neo-con pals don&#39;t miss a wink of sleep over it.</p>
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		<title>By: eurofrank</title>
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		<dc:creator>eurofrank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 06:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Professor Cole&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;As Sly says, the US withdrawal timetable is premised upon there being elections in January, which may or may not happen. Or may or may not go smoothly.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;The US media and public have taken their eyes off this ball. But if Iraq&#039;s elections don&#039;t go well, there could still be a lot of violence ahead.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This report from a loose cannon in Tel Aviv may add an extra element of uncertainty to the timing of the elections.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://yesbuthowever.com/paper-israel-to-attack-iran-if-sanctions-not-in-place-by-christmas-8136148/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Armageddon for Christmas anyone?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If Sbigniew Bzezinski&#039;s suggestion the US aircraft shoot the Israelis down isn&#039;t to be implemented pehaps we will find out if there really is a kill switch in the avionics on the F-16s.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Still at least the Turks might deny an attack wave access to their airspace.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1120420.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Admirable Backbone &lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Professor Cole</p>
<p><i>As Sly says, the US withdrawal timetable is premised upon there being elections in January, which may or may not happen. Or may or may not go smoothly.</i></p>
<p><i>The US media and public have taken their eyes off this ball. But if Iraq&#39;s elections don&#39;t go well, there could still be a lot of violence ahead.</i></p>
<p>This report from a loose cannon in Tel Aviv may add an extra element of uncertainty to the timing of the elections.</p>
<p><a href="http://yesbuthowever.com/paper-israel-to-attack-iran-if-sanctions-not-in-place-by-christmas-8136148/" rel="nofollow"><br />Armageddon for Christmas anyone?</a></p>
<p>If Sbigniew Bzezinski&#39;s suggestion the US aircraft shoot the Israelis down isn&#39;t to be implemented pehaps we will find out if there really is a kill switch in the avionics on the F-16s.</p>
<p>Still at least the Turks might deny an attack wave access to their airspace.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1120420.html" rel="nofollow"><br />Admirable Backbone </a></p>
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