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		<title>By: The Infamous Ahmadinejad "Wiped Off the Map" speech - Page 4</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Infamous Ahmadinejad "Wiped Off the Map" speech - Page 4</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Originally Posted by Apocalypse   You still don&#039;t get it. It&#039;s obvious. &quot;Communist&quot; doesn&#039;t mean &quot;Pro-Russia&#039;s existence&quot;. &quot;Zionist&quot; means pro-Israel&#039;s existence.  There&#039;s absolutely zero doubt about Ahmad&#039;s true intentions, and he makes them clearer than the sun. One needs to be blind to ignore the sun&#039;s rays.    You take a single misinterpreted quote which has been twisted by journalists and you think that his intentions are clear?  If you want to read serious articles about his intentions, you should read that Top Things you Think You Know about Iran that are not True &#124; Informed Comment [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Originally Posted by Apocalypse   You still don&#8217;t get it. It&#8217;s obvious. &#8220;Communist&#8221; doesn&#8217;t mean &#8220;Pro-Russia&#8217;s existence&#8221;. &#8220;Zionist&#8221; means pro-Israel&#8217;s existence.  There&#8217;s absolutely zero doubt about Ahmad&#8217;s true intentions, and he makes them clearer than the sun. One needs to be blind to ignore the sun&#8217;s rays.    You take a single misinterpreted quote which has been twisted by journalists and you think that his intentions are clear?  If you want to read serious articles about his intentions, you should read that Top Things you Think You Know about Iran that are not True | Informed Comment [...]</p>
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		<title>By: kayoss</title>
		<link>http://www.juancole.com/2009/10/top-things-you-think-you-know-about.html#comment-621</link>
		<dc:creator>kayoss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps you assume that this is common knowledge, But judging from my experiences with the American populace, that would be a mistake..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One word:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mosaddeq&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammed_Mosaddeq &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;for a brief summary, for those who are unaware of history occurring prior to the latest run of Dancing With the Stars &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As far as I am aware, Iran has never carried out a coup against a highly popular democratically elected leader on U.S. soil.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If the reverse was true, there would probably be a heck of a lot less mess in the middle east.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps you assume that this is common knowledge, But judging from my experiences with the American populace, that would be a mistake..</p>
<p>One word:</p>
<p>Mosaddeq</p>
<p>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammed_Mosaddeq </p>
<p>for a brief summary, for those who are unaware of history occurring prior to the latest run of Dancing With the Stars </p>
<p>As far as I am aware, Iran has never carried out a coup against a highly popular democratically elected leader on U.S. soil.</p>
<p>If the reverse was true, there would probably be a heck of a lot less mess in the middle east.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 00:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was one misconception that Prof. Cole, perhaps inadvertently, reinforced: &lt;br /&gt;Prof. Cole wrote, &lt;br /&gt;&quot;it [Iran] did break its word to the IAEA that it would immediately inform the UN of any work on a new facility.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I believe the following is public knowledge:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jay Janson&lt;br /&gt;The ‘supplementary agreements&#039; added on to the Proliferation Treaty requirements at first agreed to by Tehran were soon thereafter not ratified by the legislature and Iran gave notice to that effect at the time they were denied ratification, making clear that Iran was sticking to, and recognizing those requirements agreed to in the Non-Proliferation Treaty itself, and not the ‘supplementary agreements&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Iran has complied with the basic treaty requirements which were notification six months prior to a facility becoming functional, even giving eighteen months notice, but not the prior notice required in the long rejected ‘supplementary agreements.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When ElBaradei went along with Obama and allies claiming a violation, the violation claimed was of the ‘supplementary agreements&#039; which included a stipulation to notify the enforcing committee before beginning construction of a new plant or facility.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Perhaps this was true to ErBaradei form in spite of his recent strong statement of there being no evidence of nuclear weapons program, he disappointed us once before with that Pontious-Pilot-like “washing his hands” before the invasion of Iraq, dissimulating and hedging his reporting no nuclear finds in his monitored inspections and leaving open a hole of “could not being sure” ‘big enough [for Bush] to drive his truck through.&#039;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That said, Prof. Cole&#039;s article on the media concocted public misconceptions regarding Iran&#039;s nuclear program and others like the dis-translation of &quot;wipe off the map,&quot; was much needed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was one misconception that Prof. Cole, perhaps inadvertently, reinforced: <br />Prof. Cole wrote, <br />&quot;it [Iran] did break its word to the IAEA that it would immediately inform the UN of any work on a new facility.&quot;</p>
<p>I believe the following is public knowledge:</p>
<p>Jay Janson<br />The ‘supplementary agreements&#39; added on to the Proliferation Treaty requirements at first agreed to by Tehran were soon thereafter not ratified by the legislature and Iran gave notice to that effect at the time they were denied ratification, making clear that Iran was sticking to, and recognizing those requirements agreed to in the Non-Proliferation Treaty itself, and not the ‘supplementary agreements&#39;.</p>
<p>Iran has complied with the basic treaty requirements which were notification six months prior to a facility becoming functional, even giving eighteen months notice, but not the prior notice required in the long rejected ‘supplementary agreements.&quot;</p>
<p>When ElBaradei went along with Obama and allies claiming a violation, the violation claimed was of the ‘supplementary agreements&#39; which included a stipulation to notify the enforcing committee before beginning construction of a new plant or facility.</p>
<p>Perhaps this was true to ErBaradei form in spite of his recent strong statement of there being no evidence of nuclear weapons program, he disappointed us once before with that Pontious-Pilot-like “washing his hands” before the invasion of Iraq, dissimulating and hedging his reporting no nuclear finds in his monitored inspections and leaving open a hole of “could not being sure” ‘big enough [for Bush] to drive his truck through.&#39;</p>
<p>That said, Prof. Cole&#39;s article on the media concocted public misconceptions regarding Iran&#39;s nuclear program and others like the dis-translation of &quot;wipe off the map,&quot; was much needed.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis Argall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis Argall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 21:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to note as regards this:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Belief: Iran is like North Korea...&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...that there is constant risk also of demonising North Korea, at comparable or greater peril. There is a sense in which the North Korea question is like the Iran question. Or like, I suppose, the Cuba question. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are  great dangers in having the Iran question frontally engaged by the artillery of perverse thinking, this article helps present some reality. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Over decades there has been a different problem in relation to Korea of the issues being too hard, the opponent being too mad, issues unaddressed, left with the military much of the time. This still tends to happen, the issues narrowed down, to the allowable channels and agenda items of table and chest thumping. Much ignorance and presumption of first-person virtue. When we are annually whipped up by news of &#039;hostile&#039; North Korean manoeuvres, there is scarce mention that these are generally responses to annual reinforcement exercises between the US and ROK. No review of the history of explicit nuclear weapons threats to North Korea, no comment on the presence for a long time of US nuclear weapons in South Korea (until the nineties; the north says they are still there, what historical dealings basis would they have to think otherwise) contrary to the Armistice agreement... and so on.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Compare Schlesinger on Korea 1975 http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/japan/donizumiwp.htm &lt;br /&gt;with Schlesinger on Iran and other &#039;rogues&#039; 2009:&lt;br /&gt;http://gsn.nti.org/siteservices/full_edition.php?Edition=01/08/2009&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Let the world know, I can thump my chest too!&quot; This all stinks of fundamentalism, I look at North Korean parades and see religion to rival the Olympics and leave baptists agog. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We share with ants the R-complex of the brain stem with its the penchant for ritual and action to defend the nest, but as a &#039;higher&#039; species we have far surpassed the ants with out frontal lobe capacity for fabulist fundamentalist arguments for hostility. We seem to need a ban on neurological weapons...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to note as regards this:</p>
<p>&quot;Belief: Iran is like North Korea&#8230;&quot;</p>
<p>&#8230;that there is constant risk also of demonising North Korea, at comparable or greater peril. There is a sense in which the North Korea question is like the Iran question. Or like, I suppose, the Cuba question. </p>
<p>There are  great dangers in having the Iran question frontally engaged by the artillery of perverse thinking, this article helps present some reality. </p>
<p>Over decades there has been a different problem in relation to Korea of the issues being too hard, the opponent being too mad, issues unaddressed, left with the military much of the time. This still tends to happen, the issues narrowed down, to the allowable channels and agenda items of table and chest thumping. Much ignorance and presumption of first-person virtue. When we are annually whipped up by news of &#39;hostile&#39; North Korean manoeuvres, there is scarce mention that these are generally responses to annual reinforcement exercises between the US and ROK. No review of the history of explicit nuclear weapons threats to North Korea, no comment on the presence for a long time of US nuclear weapons in South Korea (until the nineties; the north says they are still there, what historical dealings basis would they have to think otherwise) contrary to the Armistice agreement&#8230; and so on.</p>
<p>Compare Schlesinger on Korea 1975 <a href="http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/japan/donizumiwp.htm">link to gwu.edu</a></p>
<p>with Schlesinger on Iran and other &#39;rogues&#39; 2009:<br />http://gsn.nti.org/siteservices/full_edition.php?Edition=01/08/2009</p>
<p>&quot;Let the world know, I can thump my chest too!&quot; This all stinks of fundamentalism, I look at North Korean parades and see religion to rival the Olympics and leave baptists agog. </p>
<p>We share with ants the R-complex of the brain stem with its the penchant for ritual and action to defend the nest, but as a &#39;higher&#39; species we have far surpassed the ants with out frontal lobe capacity for fabulist fundamentalist arguments for hostility. We seem to need a ban on neurological weapons&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Spencer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 19:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To those who argue that Iran&#039;s testing of missiles is an alarming sign that they intend to use them, much less fire a nuke at someone, in an offensive strike, i think you should view this link:&lt;br /&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Worldwide_nuclear_testing.svg&lt;br /&gt;it is a graph depicting the number of nuke tests per year from 1948-1998. I think you will find that the number of nukes tested vs the number of nukes used during a war (2 in case you missed that one) is very different.  Especially since the majority of those nuke tests occur during the cold war. So yes Iran was testing missiles, but that is not directly evident of their intention to use them in an offensive strike and to assume testing conclusively means use in an act of aggression is irrational and crazed, now where have i read that phrase before?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To those who argue that Iran&#39;s testing of missiles is an alarming sign that they intend to use them, much less fire a nuke at someone, in an offensive strike, i think you should view this link:<br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Worldwide_nuclear_testing.svg<br />it is a graph depicting the number of nuke tests per year from 1948-1998. I think you will find that the number of nukes tested vs the number of nukes used during a war (2 in case you missed that one) is very different.  Especially since the majority of those nuke tests occur during the cold war. So yes Iran was testing missiles, but that is not directly evident of their intention to use them in an offensive strike and to assume testing conclusively means use in an act of aggression is irrational and crazed, now where have i read that phrase before?</p>
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		<title>By: Hadding</title>
		<link>http://www.juancole.com/2009/10/top-things-you-think-you-know-about.html#comment-414</link>
		<dc:creator>Hadding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 03:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although Iran may not have started any wars in recent times, Iran was funding al-Dawa, which had attempted to assassinate two high officials of the Iraqi government, precipitating Iraqi response and the 1980-1988 war. _____ That said, I don&#039;t think that the prospect of an Iranian first strike is anybody&#039;s real concern.  I think that the real, unstated complaint about Iran is its conventional missiles based in Lebanon, which give Iran the option of a substantial retaliation against Israeli aggression, should the occasion for that arise.  The Israelis want all opposition to their hegemony eliminated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although Iran may not have started any wars in recent times, Iran was funding al-Dawa, which had attempted to assassinate two high officials of the Iraqi government, precipitating Iraqi response and the 1980-1988 war. _____ That said, I don&#39;t think that the prospect of an Iranian first strike is anybody&#39;s real concern.  I think that the real, unstated complaint about Iran is its conventional missiles based in Lebanon, which give Iran the option of a substantial retaliation against Israeli aggression, should the occasion for that arise.  The Israelis want all opposition to their hegemony eliminated.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 23:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stealing elections? For a moment I thought you were talking about the US.  Several friends as well as myself voted for Ron Paul last election. The number of votes for him were never published! Every vote counts? Well as long as it is for an &quot;approved&quot; candidate it counts! Yet we point at others who do not want to play using our rules.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oh yes, I don&#039;t doubt for a moment that the US will attack Iran and murder innocent people. That is WHAT all governments DO over time! And I have no doubt that innocent Americans will pay in blood for the hubris of our &quot;leaders&quot;. It saddens me greatly that the only option I have left is to pray as the average American opinion means zero.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Great article and wonderful that I can read the comments of others from around the world.&lt;br /&gt;Al Sledge</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stealing elections? For a moment I thought you were talking about the US.  Several friends as well as myself voted for Ron Paul last election. The number of votes for him were never published! Every vote counts? Well as long as it is for an &quot;approved&quot; candidate it counts! Yet we point at others who do not want to play using our rules.</p>
<p>Oh yes, I don&#39;t doubt for a moment that the US will attack Iran and murder innocent people. That is WHAT all governments DO over time! And I have no doubt that innocent Americans will pay in blood for the hubris of our &quot;leaders&quot;. It saddens me greatly that the only option I have left is to pray as the average American opinion means zero.</p>
<p>Great article and wonderful that I can read the comments of others from around the world.<br />Al Sledge</p>
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		<title>By: No Shackles</title>
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		<dc:creator>No Shackles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Iran is a sovereign nation.  What the Iranians do is their affair.  The US needs to mind its own business.</description>
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