<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Five Questions for the Afghan Surge; Or, Getting Past the Hype</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.juancole.com/2010/02/five-questions-for-afghan-surge-or.html/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.juancole.com/2010/02/five-questions-for-afghan-surge-or.html</link>
	<description>Thoughts on the Middle East, History and Religion</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 00:17:06 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: Mike Razim</title>
		<link>http://www.juancole.com/2010/02/five-questions-for-afghan-surge-or.html#comment-2350</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Razim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 19:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.juancole.com/?p=4993#comment-2350</guid>
		<description>You point #3 is my biggest fear.  Its great that the US and other troops have been able to nearly remove the Taliban, but who is actually capable of keeping them out.  This video from Newsy provides perspectives on this concern from local Afghan merchants and current troops: http://bit.ly/d0WiAs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You point #3 is my biggest fear.  Its great that the US and other troops have been able to nearly remove the Taliban, but who is actually capable of keeping them out.  This video from Newsy provides perspectives on this concern from local Afghan merchants and current troops: <a href="http://bit.ly/d0WiAs">link to bit.ly</a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Koekebakker</title>
		<link>http://www.juancole.com/2010/02/five-questions-for-afghan-surge-or.html#comment-2229</link>
		<dc:creator>Koekebakker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 12:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.juancole.com/?p=4993#comment-2229</guid>
		<description>Thank you for your insightful comment on the situation in Afghanistan. Just one small remark: the Dutch government was not center-right but center-left. The Social Democrat party (PvdA) and Christian Democrat&#039;s (CDA and CU) were not able to find a compromise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your insightful comment on the situation in Afghanistan. Just one small remark: the Dutch government was not center-right but center-left. The Social Democrat party (PvdA) and Christian Democrat&#39;s (CDA and CU) were not able to find a compromise.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.juancole.com/2010/02/five-questions-for-afghan-surge-or.html#comment-2228</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 02:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.juancole.com/?p=4993#comment-2228</guid>
		<description>Just some thoughts to improve your metaphor in the final paragraphs ... building a sand castle at high tide isn&#039;t so dangerous , if you intend your construction to last, you must have meant low tide. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The problem is that we don&#039;t know whethere the Taliban can build around traditional Afghan nationalism and anti-occupation-ism, or whether some other factors, includintg unforeseen political/economic developments, might change the Afghan political environment.  So the metaphor should properly be &quot;like building a sand castle at the beach, without knowing if the tide will be rising or falling.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We (Americans) might get lucky and prevail somehow in less than ten years, but we certainly can&#039;t be sure of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just some thoughts to improve your metaphor in the final paragraphs &#8230; building a sand castle at high tide isn&#39;t so dangerous , if you intend your construction to last, you must have meant low tide. </p>
<p>The problem is that we don&#39;t know whethere the Taliban can build around traditional Afghan nationalism and anti-occupation-ism, or whether some other factors, includintg unforeseen political/economic developments, might change the Afghan political environment.  So the metaphor should properly be &quot;like building a sand castle at the beach, without knowing if the tide will be rising or falling.&quot;</p>
<p>We (Americans) might get lucky and prevail somehow in less than ten years, but we certainly can&#39;t be sure of that.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: sherm</title>
		<link>http://www.juancole.com/2010/02/five-questions-for-afghan-surge-or.html#comment-2226</link>
		<dc:creator>sherm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 23:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.juancole.com/?p=4993#comment-2226</guid>
		<description>US Militarism in a Box. That&#039;s all it is. There is no overarching rationale to change Afghanistan into something concieved in Washington, by people who really don&#039;t care about the outcome, and financed by the Government&#039;s &quot;limitless???&quot; ability to borrow.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Why would it take several years for  such a large , well equipped, heavily armed, force to defeat of several hundred lightly armed Taliban? Our Special Forces alone probably outnumber the Taliban by five to one, and they are not encombered by any sort of &quot;Rules of War&quot; (that&#039;s what makes them &quot;Special&quot;).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Petraeus Doctrine is above all to save the US Military&#039;s face. As Prof Cole just pointed out in his preceding piece, Iraq is very unstable politically. All the ethnic tensions that were present before the &quot;Surge&quot; are still there. And now the central government has several hundred thousand trained soldiers under its control, with no mission other than to surpress whatever the central government wants surpressed. Yet Gen Petraeus accredits some permanent benefites to his Surge. (Which I think had the prime purpose of emasculating al Sadr.)    &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Leaving Afghanistan now is a major defeat for the military-industrial complex. Back to the barracks in shame. To avoid this the strategy is to foster this notion that it will take years of war to defeat this enemy. Don&#039;t look at day to day progress, or even year to year.&lt;br /&gt;Just pay attention to Pentagon, and White House pronouncements. And above all don&#039;t pay any attention to Informed Comment or Tomdispatch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>US Militarism in a Box. That&#39;s all it is. There is no overarching rationale to change Afghanistan into something concieved in Washington, by people who really don&#39;t care about the outcome, and financed by the Government&#39;s &quot;limitless???&quot; ability to borrow.</p>
<p>Why would it take several years for  such a large , well equipped, heavily armed, force to defeat of several hundred lightly armed Taliban? Our Special Forces alone probably outnumber the Taliban by five to one, and they are not encombered by any sort of &quot;Rules of War&quot; (that&#39;s what makes them &quot;Special&quot;).</p>
<p>The Petraeus Doctrine is above all to save the US Military&#39;s face. As Prof Cole just pointed out in his preceding piece, Iraq is very unstable politically. All the ethnic tensions that were present before the &quot;Surge&quot; are still there. And now the central government has several hundred thousand trained soldiers under its control, with no mission other than to surpress whatever the central government wants surpressed. Yet Gen Petraeus accredits some permanent benefites to his Surge. (Which I think had the prime purpose of emasculating al Sadr.)    </p>
<p>Leaving Afghanistan now is a major defeat for the military-industrial complex. Back to the barracks in shame. To avoid this the strategy is to foster this notion that it will take years of war to defeat this enemy. Don&#39;t look at day to day progress, or even year to year.<br />Just pay attention to Pentagon, and White House pronouncements. And above all don&#39;t pay any attention to Informed Comment or Tomdispatch.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Vronsky</title>
		<link>http://www.juancole.com/2010/02/five-questions-for-afghan-surge-or.html#comment-2225</link>
		<dc:creator>Vronsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 19:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.juancole.com/?p=4993#comment-2225</guid>
		<description>&quot;the Afghanistan War will take years&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;OK, maybe I can deal with that, maybe years is fine.  But what will it take years to do?  How do I recognise that those years are over, and we&#039;re done?  Is it perhaps when Afganistan invades the USA and forces the removal from power of a vicious dictator, thus ending his threat to his peaceful neighbours, and removing a nursing ground of international terrorism?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;the Afghanistan War will take years&quot;</p>
<p>OK, maybe I can deal with that, maybe years is fine.  But what will it take years to do?  How do I recognise that those years are over, and we&#39;re done?  Is it perhaps when Afganistan invades the USA and forces the removal from power of a vicious dictator, thus ending his threat to his peaceful neighbours, and removing a nursing ground of international terrorism?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: The Grey Tiger</title>
		<link>http://www.juancole.com/2010/02/five-questions-for-afghan-surge-or.html#comment-2223</link>
		<dc:creator>The Grey Tiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 17:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.juancole.com/?p=4993#comment-2223</guid>
		<description>I have pretty much given up on the Sunday talking heads so thanks for bringing this to the surface.&lt;br /&gt;If all our stated objectives are unattainable it must be time to leave.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It would make a very nice budget cut.!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have pretty much given up on the Sunday talking heads so thanks for bringing this to the surface.<br />If all our stated objectives are unattainable it must be time to leave.</p>
<p>It would make a very nice budget cut.!!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.juancole.com/2010/02/five-questions-for-afghan-surge-or.html#comment-2222</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 17:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.juancole.com/?p=4993#comment-2222</guid>
		<description>Juan:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I appreciate the level of detail in your post, and I appreciate the strong critique of Washington DC based assumptions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At the end of the day, the Afghan surge, just like the Iraq surge, was a bad idea.  We are committed to a seemingly endless presence in a place we are not appreciated.  We fight with weapons and bombs that produce the kind of anti-Americanism we are seeking to extinguish.  It is amazing that our political process delivers a strategy that produces the very thing we say we are fighting against.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But, this war will be decided by economics more than anything else.  One Trillion dollars has already been invested in wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.  What do we get for that investment?  But more importantly, what will we get from the next trillion dollars we invest?  And more importantly, should we fix American roads and schools before we try to fix Afghanistan?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Increasingly, the dissident voices will focus on economics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Juan:</p>
<p>I appreciate the level of detail in your post, and I appreciate the strong critique of Washington DC based assumptions.</p>
<p>At the end of the day, the Afghan surge, just like the Iraq surge, was a bad idea.  We are committed to a seemingly endless presence in a place we are not appreciated.  We fight with weapons and bombs that produce the kind of anti-Americanism we are seeking to extinguish.  It is amazing that our political process delivers a strategy that produces the very thing we say we are fighting against.</p>
<p>But, this war will be decided by economics more than anything else.  One Trillion dollars has already been invested in wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.  What do we get for that investment?  But more importantly, what will we get from the next trillion dollars we invest?  And more importantly, should we fix American roads and schools before we try to fix Afghanistan?</p>
<p>Increasingly, the dissident voices will focus on economics.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Lemmy</title>
		<link>http://www.juancole.com/2010/02/five-questions-for-afghan-surge-or.html#comment-2220</link>
		<dc:creator>Lemmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 10:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.juancole.com/?p=4993#comment-2220</guid>
		<description>JC, I have  a few unconventional ideas I was hoping you could comment on.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1)  After taking over Marjah, why not distribute $100 to every family?&lt;br /&gt;Call it a stimulus measure.  Or reparations for war damage or whatever.&lt;br /&gt;But couldn&#039;t this buy good will at a cheap price.  85K people, so I&#039;m guessing there are 20,000 households = $2M.&lt;br /&gt;Compared to the costs of military hardware, weaponry, soldiers, etc it&#039;s peanuts.&lt;br /&gt;Not saying it&#039;s a panacea, but wouldn&#039;t it be a simple good start.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2) I&#039;d combine that with some good salaries for the local gov&#039;t admin.  At least for key personnel, up their salaries fourfold... and demand accountability.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3) Offer some sort of genuine autonomy and governance for the Southern Pashtun region.  It seems this is the de facto situation anyway.  Why not formalize it and remove them from Kabul and national resources?  Or is offering up such a mini-Taliban quasi-state untenable, and too much like the frontier territories Pakistan doesn&#039;t control and is having troubles with.&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;m thinking of trying to get peace for most of Afghanistan, and let the Pashtuns/Taliban govern there own region?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Your thoughts would be appreciated.&lt;br /&gt;Also, I&#039;d be interested to hear any out-of-the-box ideas you might be considering worthy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thank you for your continued insights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JC, I have  a few unconventional ideas I was hoping you could comment on.</p>
<p>1)  After taking over Marjah, why not distribute $100 to every family?<br />Call it a stimulus measure.  Or reparations for war damage or whatever.<br />But couldn&#39;t this buy good will at a cheap price.  85K people, so I&#39;m guessing there are 20,000 households = $2M.<br />Compared to the costs of military hardware, weaponry, soldiers, etc it&#39;s peanuts.<br />Not saying it&#39;s a panacea, but wouldn&#39;t it be a simple good start.</p>
<p>2) I&#39;d combine that with some good salaries for the local gov&#39;t admin.  At least for key personnel, up their salaries fourfold&#8230; and demand accountability.</p>
<p>3) Offer some sort of genuine autonomy and governance for the Southern Pashtun region.  It seems this is the de facto situation anyway.  Why not formalize it and remove them from Kabul and national resources?  Or is offering up such a mini-Taliban quasi-state untenable, and too much like the frontier territories Pakistan doesn&#39;t control and is having troubles with.<br />I&#39;m thinking of trying to get peace for most of Afghanistan, and let the Pashtuns/Taliban govern there own region?</p>
<p>Your thoughts would be appreciated.<br />Also, I&#39;d be interested to hear any out-of-the-box ideas you might be considering worthy.</p>
<p>Thank you for your continued insights.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

