Well said.....Bernie is a breath of fresh air....but the very stupid American voters will buckle to the super rich and the paid off media sugar babies ...a shame...just when have we had a truly honest fair minded candidate...
Fret not boys, by time the crazies pick a candidate he will be so crippled by then,,.trying to placate them,,,,my labrador could beat them in the general election.....this from a right winger Israel supporter....
The American public is sick of wars that end up disasters ..in money lives and destruction ....she will not go to war. ,unless attacked...what a republican president may do is to back up and furnish the necessary. Bombs for israel to make the attempt the destruction of irans nuclear capabilities
Trump is the product of anti media sentiment ..the more the media blasts him ,the more his numbers rise....Bernie is really different,..he is a breath of fresh air..which is needed .by the democratic voters..considering the Clinton stink and the Obamas neglect of the needs of the every man ,especially the poor,minoritys
The Iran deal will pass up or down on its merits...certainly no pressure by anyone,especially American Jews ..who are solidly in obamas camp ...will matter
Can anyone name even one nation that is free of corruption...self dealing nepotism crony capitalism is in the nature of human beings,as is tribalism and war.....sad to say
There is a constant back and forth flow of Arab and Iranian politics...it is a mirage wrapped up in mystery...and always changing...the only constant is that no body cares what happens to the Palestinians ...
There is no more right winger then myself....BUT....Bernie being elected president would save America from the corporate monsters that are sending all the jobs they can overseas, not to mention their foreign tax dodges......go Bernie ...
Please explain.....just why with American air power the Iranians ,Hezbollah and the Kurds along with loyalist syrian can't beat the Isis forces...when one considers The open battlefield ...also why the inaction from the turks.?
The Sunni kings and potentates will never put together any kind of effort...the are incapable....it's a fight between Iran and Isis ...with Syria and Lebanon on the line ..Iraq is gone..split forever...
Anything is possible...Iran although a paper tiger,can still hold sway over shite populations in Arab nations ...who are paper lambs ...Iran needs to stay clear of the US or Israel who have teeth and can bite...therefore the Obama deal...seperating Israel ...then who knows ?
Sadly the general public only sees and thinks about today...and who can blame them...the present is difficult for most ..it's up to the politicians ..bought and paid for by big petroleum producers to correct the problem...but they won't
Lets face it...there is no two state answer ...the only chance is some form of loose federation...which would be hard enough to engineer...or constant turmoil ....
The argument put forth is sound,except that the US or even Israel could put back The Iranians nuke program for years without an invasion using air power or failing that ,small tactical nukes..an invasion should not be needed...if Iran thought this was a true option they would make a deal that can be lived with
both reasons are likely...it was a shot worth taking,..although they didnt know exactly who were in the cars ....also Israel would rather have al Qaeda there for propaganda reasons,as America really hates al Qaeda
You got to be kidding...Jordan's army?...Jordan's allies?...rocks..slingshots?...we're talking about open deserts..and plains..farmland...all sitting ducks for a powerful Air Force ..and Markova tanks..heavy artiliary...
Good idea boomer bob...now if the rest of the world would take in another 2 .3. Million...the whole mess could be. Solved..it could all be financed by the oil princes EU Israel and the worlds Jews,, like soros and their ilk....heck Ireland England Sweden Norway...they all would pitch in....now that's a plan
My my ,how dark are we all ...?....including myself ...now maybe if we thought positively...maybe just maybe ...oh no...it seems that everybody here is hoping for Israel's destruction..then they would be so so happy
Very well put...not withstanding where the blame is placed..it doesn't matter anymore,the train has left the station...the Arab demographics are to strong ..there can never be peace..it only remains how Israel can navigate the storm that is coming....likely lasting decades if not longer
It's hopeless..we are looking at a 100 to 200 war..the Muslims/Arabs have the time and the demographics to wage a struggle forever...they know it...the Jews have brains science and chutzpah..but in 100 yrs they will be looking at a billion Arabs alone...the Israelis will have to make a deal sometime..I really doubt the Arabs will deal ever...that leaves either a all out war to completely destroy their enemy's..or Israel's ...well hopefully a deal can be struck...
This strategy makes sense,as Israel does not want to actually take gaza over completely...way to costly in every way...same applies to southern Lebanon....
The bible has plenty of violence in it...Christianity has been very violent over the century's ..barbarians ruled in Germany in 1939..the world let 6million Jews die needlessly...Islam is 600 years younger..picture Christianity 600 yrs ago....
It's not just in Islam ...the whole world could use a dose of unity...after all the useless death and destruction,one would think that the human condition could change...but I guess it will take another thousand years or so...lets just hope the idiots who run things will not blow it all to kingdom come first
Mark has it right...until and when the people of both sides change their attitudes the trauma will continue...because of demographics and the sheer numbers against them the Israelis won't make the first moves...that leaves the Palestinians to show that they will live in peace with Jews ...tall order indeed,as they have been pushed around for the last many years
It really does not help their cause to teach lies and fabrications...it all adds to the Arabs inability to face reality as it really is...which indeed is self defeating
Tempest in a teapot...Isis is a sure loser..with Iran and Hezbollah on one side and the US supported Kurds and Iraqi Shiites on the other...they can not stand....
Mark....not bad ..only thing ,it's short lived...at this rate Hamas will have to go through this exercise in futility again and again and again,and still not gain any viable thing for their long suffering population.....it's good for propaganda..but is that a way to run a country?
It looks as if the jews out thought and outfought all their enemys of the time...that after the world helped hitler kill 6 million of them ....then built a strong and prosperous nation..fighting wars all along...hooray for them
What can one do when the Islamic sects go to tearing themselves apart, is there any past history of such madness?...as for Israel ...they can handle any spillage ..actually this infighting between Israel's enemy's is to israels advantage
Curt...good question...my take on it is that in a nation with over 300 million...with say 15 million are wealthy enough to send their kids to top schools at close to 70k per year,there are enough smart ones to get into those schools...then they take on financial help reall smart kids from the rest of the population...so you end up with maybe 50k yearly grads...divide them into science medicine law engineering and finance...as human nature takes hold thess grads to to work to make as much money as they can..in order to join the 15 million. Who have like 95 per cent of the wealth..with few exceptions..and those good souls are to few to make any real impression ...it's really up to the rest of the people to make it work...but as it is they are overworked and over stressed just trying to make a living ...and so it goes
Iraq is a mistake by the Brits....thanks to our invasion ..it's forever broken...the best outcome would be a loose federation of the three factions....which by the way might work for Israel/Palestine ....
Mark is right...both sides took a beating..all this goes to prove how war destroys all envolved ..now if only the human condition could only get it into their thick heads..
If gaza were to be completely free of all rockets and mortars....with the Abbas people in charge...then Israel would have no choice but to open the blockade ...then gaza can be re built once and for all.....problem is the Hamas ...can this be done with them in power ?...?...?
Wow...spy guy...that would be some agenda...with many good ideas..and a few bad...problem is what's possible?...what's practible?...the world is to small for the US to just walk away from the M East..especially with the nukes coming soon to Iran and in Israel ..and we are to spoiled to take the pain of a big energy tax which would make us energy independent...the big question I believe is can there a be a moderate Islam ,one that can live with the rest of the world and even themselves..?...I kinda hope that there is....and over time it will come about...without that...all I can see is a 100 yr conflict...with eroupe in play ..and total disaster looming
These rag tags will not take on Jordan's army,these soldiers have a vested interest in the kings survival...and they know Israel's air power will carry the day ..push comes to push
Happy and healthy new year to one and all
Brilliant observation ...well put...
Now and then,prof cole gets one wrong...in reality ,the only chance for any kind of peace is ,separation
Well said.....Bernie is a breath of fresh air....but the very stupid American voters will buckle to the super rich and the paid off media sugar babies ...a shame...just when have we had a truly honest fair minded candidate...
First encouraging thing to come along ...lets hope the misgivings are correct ..
Fret not boys, by time the crazies pick a candidate he will be so crippled by then,,.trying to placate them,,,,my labrador could beat them in the general election.....this from a right winger Israel supporter....
Certainly not true ....why is Obama going so postal ,over a deal that no body can overturn anyway....
The American public is sick of wars that end up disasters ..in money lives and destruction ....she will not go to war. ,unless attacked...what a republican president may do is to back up and furnish the necessary. Bombs for israel to make the attempt the destruction of irans nuclear capabilities
Trump is the product of anti media sentiment ..the more the media blasts him ,the more his numbers rise....Bernie is really different,..he is a breath of fresh air..which is needed .by the democratic voters..considering the Clinton stink and the Obamas neglect of the needs of the every man ,especially the poor,minoritys
The Iran deal will pass up or down on its merits...certainly no pressure by anyone,especially American Jews ..who are solidly in obamas camp ...will matter
Can anyone name even one nation that is free of corruption...self dealing nepotism crony capitalism is in the nature of human beings,as is tribalism and war.....sad to say
I would vote for Bernie ...any time....a truly honest man
There is a constant back and forth flow of Arab and Iranian politics...it is a mirage wrapped up in mystery...and always changing...the only constant is that no body cares what happens to the Palestinians ...
There is no more right winger then myself....BUT....Bernie being elected president would save America from the corporate monsters that are sending all the jobs they can overseas, not to mention their foreign tax dodges......go Bernie ...
Please explain.....just why with American air power the Iranians ,Hezbollah and the Kurds along with loyalist syrian can't beat the Isis forces...when one considers The open battlefield ...also why the inaction from the turks.?
The Sunni kings and potentates will never put together any kind of effort...the are incapable....it's a fight between Iran and Isis ...with Syria and Lebanon on the line ..Iraq is gone..split forever...
Iran is a paper tiger because its small military budget ...that is logical...
Agreed...right on this one....
The tragedy of war continues...everybody's at fault...except for the innocents who pay for it in blood
Bombs are blind, they kill indiscriminately ...war is hell on earth....however it takes two sides...
Anything is possible...Iran although a paper tiger,can still hold sway over shite populations in Arab nations ...who are paper lambs ...Iran needs to stay clear of the US or Israel who have teeth and can bite...therefore the Obama deal...seperating Israel ...then who knows ?
I wonder if the US navy intends to stop Iran from arming the houtis ..?
Sadly the general public only sees and thinks about today...and who can blame them...the present is difficult for most ..it's up to the politicians ..bought and paid for by big petroleum producers to correct the problem...but they won't
Lets face it...there is no two state answer ...the only chance is some form of loose federation...which would be hard enough to engineer...or constant turmoil ....
I do think that the princes can survive for the near future....however if they fall ..total chaos will follow...and that's no good for anybody,..
JT....never thought I would see the day when I would agree with you....well mostly...right on
The argument put forth is sound,except that the US or even Israel could put back The Iranians nuke program for years without an invasion using air power or failing that ,small tactical nukes..an invasion should not be needed...if Iran thought this was a true option they would make a deal that can be lived with
both reasons are likely...it was a shot worth taking,..although they didnt know exactly who were in the cars ....also Israel would rather have al Qaeda there for propaganda reasons,as America really hates al Qaeda
You got to be kidding...Jordan's army?...Jordan's allies?...rocks..slingshots?...we're talking about open deserts..and plains..farmland...all sitting ducks for a powerful Air Force ..and Markova tanks..heavy artiliary...
Good idea boomer bob...now if the rest of the world would take in another 2 .3. Million...the whole mess could be. Solved..it could all be financed by the oil princes EU Israel and the worlds Jews,, like soros and their ilk....heck Ireland England Sweden Norway...they all would pitch in....now that's a plan
My my ,how dark are we all ...?....including myself ...now maybe if we thought positively...maybe just maybe ...oh no...it seems that everybody here is hoping for Israel's destruction..then they would be so so happy
Very well put...not withstanding where the blame is placed..it doesn't matter anymore,the train has left the station...the Arab demographics are to strong ..there can never be peace..it only remains how Israel can navigate the storm that is coming....likely lasting decades if not longer
And what would that accomplish?
Maybe the monks know something ,the uber liberals of the world refuse to face
Israel does not have to attack by air...she has tactical nukes on subs....if need be...however Iran will back down...if given some face saving device
It's hopeless..we are looking at a 100 to 200 war..the Muslims/Arabs have the time and the demographics to wage a struggle forever...they know it...the Jews have brains science and chutzpah..but in 100 yrs they will be looking at a billion Arabs alone...the Israelis will have to make a deal sometime..I really doubt the Arabs will deal ever...that leaves either a all out war to completely destroy their enemy's..or Israel's ...well hopefully a deal can be struck...
This strategy makes sense,as Israel does not want to actually take gaza over completely...way to costly in every way...same applies to southern Lebanon....
The bible has plenty of violence in it...Christianity has been very violent over the century's ..barbarians ruled in Germany in 1939..the world let 6million Jews die needlessly...Islam is 600 years younger..picture Christianity 600 yrs ago....
Where are all your always outraged commenters ??
It's not just in Islam ...the whole world could use a dose of unity...after all the useless death and destruction,one would think that the human condition could change...but I guess it will take another thousand years or so...lets just hope the idiots who run things will not blow it all to kingdom come first
Mark has it right...until and when the people of both sides change their attitudes the trauma will continue...because of demographics and the sheer numbers against them the Israelis won't make the first moves...that leaves the Palestinians to show that they will live in peace with Jews ...tall order indeed,as they have been pushed around for the last many years
Incompetence reins
It really does not help their cause to teach lies and fabrications...it all adds to the Arabs inability to face reality as it really is...which indeed is self defeating
Now that turned out to be a world class mistake ...or maybe they had no choice ....anybody?
Why this madness?.....it's like those crazy Saudis who let those girls die rather then let them run out of a fire undressed ...
It's always been who one knows rather then what you know
Tempest in a teapot...Isis is a sure loser..with Iran and Hezbollah on one side and the US supported Kurds and Iraqi Shiites on the other...they can not stand....
Mark....not bad ..only thing ,it's short lived...at this rate Hamas will have to go through this exercise in futility again and again and again,and still not gain any viable thing for their long suffering population.....it's good for propaganda..but is that a way to run a country?
Can anyone explain the chevy volts lack of sales?
It looks as if the jews out thought and outfought all their enemys of the time...that after the world helped hitler kill 6 million of them ....then built a strong and prosperous nation..fighting wars all along...hooray for them
And here we hear that Hamas won the war?
What can one do when the Islamic sects go to tearing themselves apart, is there any past history of such madness?...as for Israel ...they can handle any spillage ..actually this infighting between Israel's enemy's is to israels advantage
Curt...good question...my take on it is that in a nation with over 300 million...with say 15 million are wealthy enough to send their kids to top schools at close to 70k per year,there are enough smart ones to get into those schools...then they take on financial help reall smart kids from the rest of the population...so you end up with maybe 50k yearly grads...divide them into science medicine law engineering and finance...as human nature takes hold thess grads to to work to make as much money as they can..in order to join the 15 million. Who have like 95 per cent of the wealth..with few exceptions..and those good souls are to few to make any real impression ...it's really up to the rest of the people to make it work...but as it is they are overworked and over stressed just trying to make a living ...and so it goes
Iraq is a mistake by the Brits....thanks to our invasion ..it's forever broken...the best outcome would be a loose federation of the three factions....which by the way might work for Israel/Palestine ....
Mark is right...both sides took a beating..all this goes to prove how war destroys all envolved ..now if only the human condition could only get it into their thick heads..
Prof Coles description of the ceasefire is the best I have seen...unless Hamas agrees to police a dis armament ..I doubt that they can get anywhere...
If prof cole a valued tenured prof. at u.mich. made those exact statements .....I question his survival at u.mich.
Wonderful thoughts.....if only ?
So called terrorists you say...if they are not the real thing. What is?
If gaza were to be completely free of all rockets and mortars....with the Abbas people in charge...then Israel would have no choice but to open the blockade ...then gaza can be re built once and for all.....problem is the Hamas ...can this be done with them in power ?...?...?
Wow...spy guy...that would be some agenda...with many good ideas..and a few bad...problem is what's possible?...what's practible?...the world is to small for the US to just walk away from the M East..especially with the nukes coming soon to Iran and in Israel ..and we are to spoiled to take the pain of a big energy tax which would make us energy independent...the big question I believe is can there a be a moderate Islam ,one that can live with the rest of the world and even themselves..?...I kinda hope that there is....and over time it will come about...without that...all I can see is a 100 yr conflict...with eroupe in play ..and total disaster looming
And so what should the US do?....as nothing seems to work...any ideas out there?
The murders were just plain that..cold blooded waste of three human beings...totally shamefull,...period.
One can only hope you are right,for in reality that happening is the only hope for peace in this cauldron of fire....
These rag tags will not take on Jordan's army,these soldiers have a vested interest in the kings survival...and they know Israel's air power will carry the day ..push comes to push
Best idea in years...go to it boys
Come on mark.....one less Christian Zionist..hope you are no trying to blame this goofy lady on Israel..
Really.....truth is that Israel can and will defeat the Russian anti aircraft missiles,if ever necessary....you can take that to the bank