How much would the United States take from protesters? I remember the Chicago police outside the Democratic Convention. It hasn't gotten any better, it's zero tolerance. If there is an insurrection does a government have a right or duty to defend it's people and sovereignty?
When Libya broke out, the rag tag CIA backed rebels were not to be opposed by Gadhafi? No fly zone, tie one arm behind his back, and cry foul when he tries to maintain power. It's nuts.
"Iraqi oil is in the hands of its national and elected government. So not sure what your gripe is" Try BP Oil, the one we fought the war for and Haliburton and the Trans Afghan Pipeline
Now there is no way in hell you could analyze this situation and not take into account the 20 Billion dollar Oil contract BP signed with Libya (exchange of the lockerbie bomber as a sweetener). Not only is the deal important, THEY JUST STARTED DRILLING when this broke out.
Now if you would like to compare Iraq with Libya, don't forget to include the fact that we "liberated" Iraq for? BP Oil! Yup they got the Oil contracts and China National Petroleum their best boy second tier. It doesn't take a lot of scholarly work to discover the connection with the Trans Afghan Pipeline deal and the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq .
Back to Libya, here's my take:
I think there is a question of how this started, I believe it was started by a pro Arab rebel force that was backed by Muslim brotherhood, it took us by surprise and we were alarmed because it was hostile to us also. Yet it was a genuine self-determination uprising, it's going on in Yemen and difficult to tell who's who.
Now in Libya the interests were clear, BP had just signed a deal with Gadaffi for 20 Billion and in fact they are just beginning to drill in the Gulf of Sidra, main port being Benghazi, there are also critical offshore oil gulf ports like Ras Lanuf that were bombed and protected right away too.
So my take is, we (meaning us and England/BP) were fine with Gadaffi, made a deal to free the Lockerbie Bomber for the Oil 20 billion deal, then a genuine uprising, shock to us, we stumbled all over the place and finally decided if we had to throw Gadaffi under the "bus" we would (and the 20 Billion dollar deal), but we also got rid of the original rebels, in there place was put "the transitional group" described as prominent businessmen. Now it's about oil, and the world knows it, knows exactly what we did.
And just like very other calamity we got ourselves into, the world knew and we were the last to now.
How much would the United States take from protesters? I remember the Chicago police outside the Democratic Convention. It hasn't gotten any better, it's zero tolerance. If there is an insurrection does a government have a right or duty to defend it's people and sovereignty?
When Libya broke out, the rag tag CIA backed rebels were not to be opposed by Gadhafi? No fly zone, tie one arm behind his back, and cry foul when he tries to maintain power. It's nuts.
What do you mean by nationalize?
"Iraqi oil is in the hands of its national and elected government. So not sure what your gripe is" Try BP Oil, the one we fought the war for and Haliburton and the Trans Afghan Pipeline
Informed? Hardly.
Now there is no way in hell you could analyze this situation and not take into account the 20 Billion dollar Oil contract BP signed with Libya (exchange of the lockerbie bomber as a sweetener). Not only is the deal important, THEY JUST STARTED DRILLING when this broke out.
Now if you would like to compare Iraq with Libya, don't forget to include the fact that we "liberated" Iraq for? BP Oil! Yup they got the Oil contracts and China National Petroleum their best boy second tier. It doesn't take a lot of scholarly work to discover the connection with the Trans Afghan Pipeline deal and the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq .
Back to Libya, here's my take:
I think there is a question of how this started, I believe it was started by a pro Arab rebel force that was backed by Muslim brotherhood, it took us by surprise and we were alarmed because it was hostile to us also. Yet it was a genuine self-determination uprising, it's going on in Yemen and difficult to tell who's who.
Now in Libya the interests were clear, BP had just signed a deal with Gadaffi for 20 Billion and in fact they are just beginning to drill in the Gulf of Sidra, main port being Benghazi, there are also critical offshore oil gulf ports like Ras Lanuf that were bombed and protected right away too.
So my take is, we (meaning us and England/BP) were fine with Gadaffi, made a deal to free the Lockerbie Bomber for the Oil 20 billion deal, then a genuine uprising, shock to us, we stumbled all over the place and finally decided if we had to throw Gadaffi under the "bus" we would (and the 20 Billion dollar deal), but we also got rid of the original rebels, in there place was put "the transitional group" described as prominent businessmen. Now it's about oil, and the world knows it, knows exactly what we did.
And just like very other calamity we got ourselves into, the world knew and we were the last to now.