Berman should consider reading Ari Shavit's no nonsense editorial in Haaretz, April 2003 called "White Man's Burden" that stated then pretty much the same information that Giraldi discussed in UNZ piece last week that raised such a fuss, claiming 'anti Semtism' for stating the OBVIOUS about the decades long neoconservative drive for dividing/carving up the M/E...(see also YINON PLAN 1982 ) https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/white-man-s-burden-1.14110#article-comments
After all, even Wesley Clark spoke about that plan when he was a candidate in 2007 for President...to invade seven countries in five years...and mentioned the neocons in his book..Wolfowitz, Perle, Libby, Feith, Wurmser, Abrams, et al.
Those 30 American 'terrorist' deaths suck up all the air in the room! Recently read a news article that mentioned more than 30,000 Americans died as a result of handguns,( self inflicted, accidental, homocide and mass violence)! Here's that link from Oct 2015: http://www.oregonlive.com/data/2015/10/gun_deaths_other_causes.html thank you for refocusing attention to REALITY! /best
JFK sent inspectors to visit DIMONA "textile" plant because of the suspicions they were developing nuclear weapons covertly. The Israelis bricked up access to the 6 stories underground and so there was no proof visible to US inspectors when Ben Gurion and JFK had "discussions" about nuclear development. Read "Bomb in the Basement"...google NUMEC Pennsylvania plutonium theft. Grant Smith at IRmep has secured numerous revelations thanks to the FOIA process of obtaining declassified US docs on this and related topics.
It's not only the Likud...but actually the Zionist establishment has ALWAYS desired to 'expropriate' the southern part of Lebanon....to whit, Chaim Weizmann in 1919 claimed the Litani River for the future state of Israel as its northern border. It was echoed by Ben Gurion decades later. They felt that "all that water in southern Lebanon is WASTED on shepherds and those poor Shi'a farmers. Litani River has always been coveted by the zionists. Weizman wrote this to Lloyd George that year: "the boundaries cannot be drawn exclusively on historic [biblical] lines ... our claims to the north are imperatively demanded by the requirements of modern economic life."
Imperious, no?
I had no idea how horribly easy it is to buy these deadly weapons!!
here's a link which tells readers you can buy online and get shipping "free".....
...http://tinyurl.com/csbjv5p ...I have no association with the sellers or website but only posted this as an example of how proliferative the problem. THanks Juan for the other article that compared the UK with the US....
Just as we witness US msm and others proclaiming an "Almost" nuclear weapons program in Iran that the USreal must STOP....there are reasons to suspect completely what 'news' is revealed/photoshopped or misrepresented as there are more fish to fry, I suspect. Perhaps hearing too many sanctimonious claims about "humanitarian interventions" (in Libya, Iraq, Kosovo) where GBU d/u bombs were used and thousands of civilians were killed..(that's liberation?)...I am just too cynical any longer to believe the words that fall from State Dept mouthpieces, or UN or anyone else at the disposal of Empire telling us once again of the need to intervene...more than has already taken place by arming and funding the opposition in Syria... just recently BBC was forced to admit that once again they failed to properly vet an image taken in Houla...to be another war entirely...OOPS. Here's that latest apology from BBC...I'd be hard pressed to 'trust" the Beeb for their next "breaking news" items. http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2012/05/houla_massacre_picture_mistake.html
What has happened since 1982 ? it depends on where you look and who you ask-- Ariel Sharon who oversaw the slaughter of Sabra Chatilla camps in Lebanon who resigned only to later be elected as PM; and the massive Israeli blitzkrieg of Beirut which killed approximately 20,000 civilians; the Ibrahimi mosque massacre of people in prayer by an orthodox 'doctor' /follower of terrorist Kahane; IDF incursions into West Bank cities in 2002, destruction of hundreds of homes with what aim? Incredible barbaric violence against "neighbors" has created bleak prospects for the region with a militarily mighty belligerent who claims to be the ultimate victim.
But perhaps the worst aspect of yr comment --that suicide bombings which started occurring after Palestinians saw that Oslo was another dead-end.
Up to that point there had been great hope -so, that was when suicide bombings took place, because it seemed there was nothing left but to die.
The statement that Israelis were "traumatized" by 2nd intifada in itself is mindboggling. Consider that it was again Sharon and his intentionally provocative "stroll" around the Haram w/ 1000 armed police, followed by the killing of 13 Palestinian demonstrators that presented the image of an unyielding occupier & foe who sees no humanity in "the other".
That is why no progress has been made. Israeli trauma always is presented as more grievous/deeper/more significant than Palestinians, Lebanese or any others. The Palestinians' suffering remains a mystery because of peristent Israeli indoctrination about "aravim" as largely dehumanized beings.
Consider the people of GAZA -- invaded & bombed so many times while suffering encage-ment & limitation of all possible freedoms -which Israelis take for granted. Operation Rainbow, Operation Summer Rains, Operation Autumn Clouds...years before 2008's Cast Lead.
How much trauma have Palestinian adults & children endured repeatedly over the decades whilst Americans & Europeans read only about Israeli victims and their families.
In stark numbers, 1600 Israelis died between Sept 2000 to last April '11
-while nearly 8000 Palestinians have died & 51,000 Palestinians have been injured or permanently maimed during the same period. Palestinians have no bomb shelters to escape to, nor do they have an army or navy with helicopters or jets to counter the recurrent incursions they suffer, yet Palestinians continue their struggle for self determination despite obstructionism from the US and Israel, whilst theft of their land is ongoing.
The only word that comes to mind is "chutzpah" when those with the most power perceive themselves as the ultimate victim, whilst those with little to nothing but stones are branded as unmitigated terrorists.
Khamenei offered faint praise....Amen and hallaleulia!
I shudder to think what the GO-Pee party would do with any praise given to Obama from any source, let alone from Ali Khamenei....
It is cautionary but hopeful that a 'signal' was sent that acknowledges Obama's "exit from illusion"..as this dad-ratted hardline mantle all candidates wear to show their cred is nerve wracking ...Are these your own personal translations or are they from another tranlator service? I did not observe any citation about these translations....thank you!
Berman should consider reading Ari Shavit's no nonsense editorial in Haaretz, April 2003 called "White Man's Burden" that stated then pretty much the same information that Giraldi discussed in UNZ piece last week that raised such a fuss, claiming 'anti Semtism' for stating the OBVIOUS about the decades long neoconservative drive for dividing/carving up the M/E...(see also YINON PLAN 1982 ) https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/white-man-s-burden-1.14110#article-comments
After all, even Wesley Clark spoke about that plan when he was a candidate in 2007 for President...to invade seven countries in five years...and mentioned the neocons in his book..Wolfowitz, Perle, Libby, Feith, Wurmser, Abrams, et al.
the overriding fact imo is that he was the 'father of the nuclear wmd' --the secret arsenal...that alone should have doomed his "peace" prize...
Those 30 American 'terrorist' deaths suck up all the air in the room! Recently read a news article that mentioned more than 30,000 Americans died as a result of handguns,( self inflicted, accidental, homocide and mass violence)! Here's that link from Oct 2015: http://www.oregonlive.com/data/2015/10/gun_deaths_other_causes.html thank you for refocusing attention to REALITY! /best
JFK sent inspectors to visit DIMONA "textile" plant because of the suspicions they were developing nuclear weapons covertly. The Israelis bricked up access to the 6 stories underground and so there was no proof visible to US inspectors when Ben Gurion and JFK had "discussions" about nuclear development. Read "Bomb in the Basement"...google NUMEC Pennsylvania plutonium theft. Grant Smith at IRmep has secured numerous revelations thanks to the FOIA process of obtaining declassified US docs on this and related topics.
It's not only the Likud...but actually the Zionist establishment has ALWAYS desired to 'expropriate' the southern part of Lebanon....to whit, Chaim Weizmann in 1919 claimed the Litani River for the future state of Israel as its northern border. It was echoed by Ben Gurion decades later. They felt that "all that water in southern Lebanon is WASTED on shepherds and those poor Shi'a farmers. Litani River has always been coveted by the zionists. Weizman wrote this to Lloyd George that year: "the boundaries cannot be drawn exclusively on historic [biblical] lines ... our claims to the north are imperatively demanded by the requirements of modern economic life."
Imperious, no?
"HONOR BOUND" @ Camp Justice?? WHAT of GENEVA CONVENTION human rights protocols?? what would Goerhing say?
I had no idea how horribly easy it is to buy these deadly weapons!!
here's a link which tells readers you can buy online and get shipping "free".....
...http://tinyurl.com/csbjv5p ...I have no association with the sellers or website but only posted this as an example of how proliferative the problem. THanks Juan for the other article that compared the UK with the US....
Just as we witness US msm and others proclaiming an "Almost" nuclear weapons program in Iran that the USreal must STOP....there are reasons to suspect completely what 'news' is revealed/photoshopped or misrepresented as there are more fish to fry, I suspect. Perhaps hearing too many sanctimonious claims about "humanitarian interventions" (in Libya, Iraq, Kosovo) where GBU d/u bombs were used and thousands of civilians were killed..(that's liberation?)...I am just too cynical any longer to believe the words that fall from State Dept mouthpieces, or UN or anyone else at the disposal of Empire telling us once again of the need to intervene...more than has already taken place by arming and funding the opposition in Syria... just recently BBC was forced to admit that once again they failed to properly vet an image taken in Houla...to be another war entirely...OOPS. Here's that latest apology from BBC...I'd be hard pressed to 'trust" the Beeb for their next "breaking news" items.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2012/05/houla_massacre_picture_mistake.html
What has happened since 1982 ? it depends on where you look and who you ask-- Ariel Sharon who oversaw the slaughter of Sabra Chatilla camps in Lebanon who resigned only to later be elected as PM; and the massive Israeli blitzkrieg of Beirut which killed approximately 20,000 civilians; the Ibrahimi mosque massacre of people in prayer by an orthodox 'doctor' /follower of terrorist Kahane; IDF incursions into West Bank cities in 2002, destruction of hundreds of homes with what aim? Incredible barbaric violence against "neighbors" has created bleak prospects for the region with a militarily mighty belligerent who claims to be the ultimate victim.
But perhaps the worst aspect of yr comment --that suicide bombings which started occurring after Palestinians saw that Oslo was another dead-end.
Up to that point there had been great hope -so, that was when suicide bombings took place, because it seemed there was nothing left but to die.
The statement that Israelis were "traumatized" by 2nd intifada in itself is mindboggling. Consider that it was again Sharon and his intentionally provocative "stroll" around the Haram w/ 1000 armed police, followed by the killing of 13 Palestinian demonstrators that presented the image of an unyielding occupier & foe who sees no humanity in "the other".
That is why no progress has been made. Israeli trauma always is presented as more grievous/deeper/more significant than Palestinians, Lebanese or any others. The Palestinians' suffering remains a mystery because of peristent Israeli indoctrination about "aravim" as largely dehumanized beings.
Consider the people of GAZA -- invaded & bombed so many times while suffering encage-ment & limitation of all possible freedoms -which Israelis take for granted. Operation Rainbow, Operation Summer Rains, Operation Autumn Clouds...years before 2008's Cast Lead.
How much trauma have Palestinian adults & children endured repeatedly over the decades whilst Americans & Europeans read only about Israeli victims and their families.
In stark numbers, 1600 Israelis died between Sept 2000 to last April '11
-while nearly 8000 Palestinians have died & 51,000 Palestinians have been injured or permanently maimed during the same period. Palestinians have no bomb shelters to escape to, nor do they have an army or navy with helicopters or jets to counter the recurrent incursions they suffer, yet Palestinians continue their struggle for self determination despite obstructionism from the US and Israel, whilst theft of their land is ongoing.
The only word that comes to mind is "chutzpah" when those with the most power perceive themselves as the ultimate victim, whilst those with little to nothing but stones are branded as unmitigated terrorists.
Khamenei offered faint praise....Amen and hallaleulia!
I shudder to think what the GO-Pee party would do with any praise given to Obama from any source, let alone from Ali Khamenei....
It is cautionary but hopeful that a 'signal' was sent that acknowledges Obama's "exit from illusion"..as this dad-ratted hardline mantle all candidates wear to show their cred is nerve wracking ...Are these your own personal translations or are they from another tranlator service? I did not observe any citation about these translations....thank you!