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  • Israel Parliament debates incursion into Holy Muslim site in Jerusalem
    • What would be wrong with the Israelis building a synagogue, not the third temple, on a corner of Temple Mount? The Dome of the Rock and Al-Aqsa mosque would be left alone. Its a site that is holy to Jews and Christians so it shouldn't be controled by one faith alone.

  • Kerry Blasts Climate Denialists, equates Climate Change with Terrorism, WMDs
    • And just how many tons of C02 did Kerry release by jetting all the way around the world to give a speech he could have given via video? Also how much from his multiple mansions, cars, and other rich man's toys?

  • The Cheapening of American Politics: Why did Obama reward O'Reilly with an Interview?
    • Truth hurts John.

    • Back in the 2008 campaign, Hillary Clinton's people said they liked going on Fox. There they were asked tough questions but they weren't being asked the 'so when is Hillary dropping out to give the nomination to Obama?' like all the other networks were doing.

    • Everything you complain about with Fox you can say the exact same thing about MSNBC and the piles of manure they've thrown at conservatives.

      Sauce for the goose John.

  • Messianic Israeli Minister obsessed with Palestinian Land accuses Kerry of Messianic Obsession
  • Gatesgate: Why Obama was right to Distrust his Generals on Afghanistan
    • LBJ wouldn't listen to the generals. They were saying you go all in or don't go at all. He and McNamara thought you could send 'messages' with bombs. Even the CIA in '65 was saying the 'strategy' was doomed.

  • US loses UNESCO Voting Rights: How Kow-Towing to Israeli Policy Weakens America
  • Pakistani family testifies to empty room on Hill about US Drone that killed Granny
  • Israeli Troops attack European Diplomats on Aid Mission
    • Diplomatic Immunity means you can't be charged or convicted by the host nation. Unless the immunity is waved by your own country. It doesn't mean that you can break laws or act with impunity in the host country.

      The diplomat on the ground got that way because she punched one of the border guards in the jaw. Oh and the gun was in no way pointed at her head. See the truth: link to idfblog.com

  • Syria: Will Killing of Hundreds with Sarin Gas force Obama's Hand?
    • Interesting to note that the international inspectors who came to investigate the other alleged chemical attacks just arrived in Syria. Assad couldn't be that dumb, could he? If anything did happen, I'd suspect a 'false flag' attack by the rebels instead.

  • Egyptian Police Clear Brotherhood Sit-Ins, at cost of Scores of deaths, injuries
  • Rockets in Beirut Target Hizbullah as Violence spreads from Syria to Lebanon
    • I think its not that they support Assad but don't want any fighting to spread into their country.

  • Belize Construction company Destroys Mayan Pyramid in Latest Refutation of Libertarianism
    • What does this have to do with libertarianism? It was a company own by a local politician who didn't care about the laws that had been issued to protect the site.

      Regarding tobacco... If its so poisonous and horrible then why doesn't the government just ban it outright? Can it be that they are loving the taxes that it brings in?

  • Pot and Partying: Top Ten Signs the Tsarnaev Brothers Weren't Pious Muslims
    • #1,3,5: Did not the 9/11 hijackers spend much time in strip clubs, and other things like that?

      #6,9,10: 9/11 hijackers, London tube bombers, Spanish train bombers....

      Question:
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      Are Muslims permitted to lie?

      Summary Answer:
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      Muslim scholars teach that Muslims should be truthful to each other.

      There are two forms of lying to non-believers that are permitted under certain circumstances, taqiyya and kitman. One of those circumstances is to gain the trust of non-believers in order to draw out their vulnerability and defeat them.

      The Qur'an:
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      Qur'an (16:106) - Establishes that there are circumstances that can "compel" a Muslim to tell a lie.

      Qur'an (3:28) - This verse tells Muslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to "guard themselves."

      Qur'an (40:28) - A man is introduced as a believer, but one who must "hide his faith" among those who are not believers.

      Qur'an (2:225) - "Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts"

      Qur'an (66:2) - "Allah has already ordained for you, (O men), the dissolution of your oaths"

      Taken collectively these verses are interpreted to mean that there are circumstances when a Muslim may be "compelled" to deceive others for a greater purpose.

      From the Hadith:
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      Bukhari (52:269) - "The Prophet said, 'War is deceit.'" The context of this is thought to be the murder of Usayr ibn Zarim and his thirty unarmed men by Muhammad's men after he "guaranteed" them safe passage (see Additional Notes below).

      Bukhari (49:857) - "He who makes peace between the people by inventing good information or saying good things, is not a liar." Lying is permitted when the end justifies the means.

      Bukhari (84:64-65) - Speaking from a position of power at the time, Ali confirms that lying is permissible in order to deceive an "enemy."

      Bukhari (52:271) - Recounts the murder of a poet, Ka'b bin al-Ashraf, at Muhammad's insistence. The men who volunteered for the assassination used dishonesty to gain Ka'b's trust, pretending that they had turned against Muhammad. This drew the victim out of his fortress, whereupon he was brutally slaughtered despite putting up a ferocious struggle for his life.

      From Islamic Law:
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      Reliance of the Traveler (p. 746) - "[it is] obligatory to lie if the goal is obligatory... Whether the purpose is war, settling a disagreement, or gaining the sympathy of a victim legally entitled to retaliate... it is not unlawful to lie when any of these aims can only be attained through lying. But is is religiously precautionary in all cases to employ words that give a misleading impression..."

      Additional Notes:
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      Muslims are allowed to lie to unbelievers in order to defeat them. The two forms are:

      Taqiyya - Saying something that isn't true.
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      Kitman - Lying by omission.
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      An example would be when Muslim apologists quote only a fragment of verse 5:32 (that if anyone kills "it shall be as if he had killed all mankind") while neglecting to mention that the rest of the verse (and the next) mandate murder in undefined cases of "corruption" and "mischief."

      Though not called Taqiyya by name, Muhammad clearly used deception when he signed a 10-year treaty with the Meccans that allowed him access to their city while he secretly prepared his own forces for a takeover. The unsuspecting residents were conquered in easy fashion after he broke the treaty two years later, and some of the people in the city who had trusted him at his word were executed. (See Qur'an (9:3) - ("...Allah and His Messenger are free from liability to the idolaters...").

      Another example of lying is when Muhammad used deception to trick his personal enemies into letting down their guard and exposing themselves to slaughter by pretending to seek peace. This happened in the case of Ka'b bin al-Ashraf (as previously noted) and again later against Usayr ibn Zarim, a surviving leader of the Banu Nadir tribe, which had been evicted from their home in Medina by the Muslims.

      At the time, Usayr ibn Zarim was attempting to gather an armed force against the Muslims from among a tribe allied with the Quraish (against which Muhammad had already declared war). Muhammad's "emissaries" went to ibn Zarim and persuaded him to leave his safe haven on the pretext of meeting with the prophet of Islam in Medina to discuss peace. Once vulnerable, the leader and his thirty companions were massacred by the Muslims with ease, belying the probability that they were mostly unarmed, having been given a guarantee of safe haven (Ibn Ishaq 981).

      Such was the reputation of Muslims for lying and then killing that even those who "accepted Islam" did not feel entirely safe. The fate of the Jadhima is tragic evidence for this. When Muslim "missionaries" approached their tribe one of the members insisted that they would be slaughtered even though they had already "converted" to Islam to avoid just such a demise. However, the others were convinced that they could trust the Muslim leader's promise that they would not be harmed if they simply offered no resistance. (After convincing the skeptic to lay down his arms, the unarmed men of the tribe were quickly tied up and beheaded - Ibn Ishaq 834 & 837).

      Today's Muslims often try to justify Muhammad's murder of poets and others who criticized him at Medina by saying that they broke a treaty by their actions. Yet, these same apologists place little value on treaties broken by Muslims. From Muhammad to Saddam Hussein, promises made to non-Muslim are distinctly non-binding in the Muslim mindset.

      The 9/11 hijackers practiced deception by going into bars and drinking alcohol, thus throwing off potential suspicion that they were fundamentalists plotting jihad. This effort worked so well, in fact, that even weeks after 9/11, John Walsh, the host of a popular American television show, said that their bar trips were evidence of 'hypocrisy.'

      The transmission from Flight 93 records the hijackers telling their doomed passengers that there is "a bomb on board" but that everyone will "be safe" as long as "their demands are met." Obviously none of these things were true, but these men, who were so intensely devoted to Islam that they were willing to "slay and be slain for the cause of Allah" (as the Qur'an puts it) saw nothing wrong with employing Taqiyya in order to facilitate their mission of mass murder.

      The near absence of Qur'anic verse and reliable Hadith that encourage truthfulness is somewhat surprising, given that many Muslims are convinced that their religion teaches honesty. In fact, it is because of this ingrained belief that most Muslims are quite honest.

      Finally, the circumstances by which Muhammad allowed a believer to lie are limited to those that either advance the cause of Islam or enable a Muslim to avoid harm to his well-being (and presumably that of other Muslims as well). Although this should be kept very much in mind when dealing with matters of global security, such as Iran's nuclear intentions, it is not grounds for assuming that the Muslim one might personally encounter on the street or in the workplace is any less honest than anyone else.

  • Congress Obsessed with American Muslims, Neglects real threat of White Supremacists
    • The chief suspects in the killings are the Arayan Nation gangs. However, according to the FBI the AN is working as contract killers for the Mexican Mafia and various Mexican drug cartels. Much like how the Westies in New York were the thugs for hire of the Italian Mafia.

  • Why Wasn't the Higgs Boson Discovered in the US? Neal DeGrasse Tyson explains congressional stupidity
    • Also blame the Clinton administration for not pushing hard enough. The case they made to congress to keep the funding going was weak at best.

      It came down to either the SCSC or the space station and because the space station had more international links it got picked. Remember, the space station was to keep Russian scientists at work and not have them go to North Korea & Iran.

  • As Rebels close in on Damascus, Obama warns he'll Intervene if Chemicals are Used
    • What he could do would be to take after his father and use the chemicals on civilians. His dad may have your cyanide or lewsite when he was attacking the city of Hama.

  • First, Kill all the Fossil Fuel Subsidies (Plus, a Democracy Now! Video)
    • I'll give you no arguement about the fossil fuel subsidies if you add the solar/wind/etc to them as well. Let them all stand or fail on their own.

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