Once again not Americans fault that shiite and sunni extremists funded and equipped by their respective allys (Iran, Saudi Arabia) began bombing each others mosques and fighting proxy wars in Iraq in order to gain control.
I know many civilians in Iraq I don't have to read a blog to find out what people think...and what people think is that America abandoned them to slaughter and holy war we should have obviously never left...we should have obviously stopped isis in Syria before the could establish a state.
And this girl lives in baghdad, therefore she is most likely Shia. If we let the Islamic state capture baghdad she will end up as a slave wife for some wahabi terrorist...so are we done arguing or do more people need to die besides the 200000 in Syria before we act?
You know and I know and everyone who has ever been on the ground in Iraq knows that the SOFA excuse is pretty lame.....Malaki and his goons had already agreed to in in principle the Obama administration wanted him to send it through iraqi parliament which would have caused Malaki to loose political support....does anyone in their right mind actually believe that the US govt would allow one of its soldiers to be tried in Iraq regardless of any paper agreement? The second US troops left Iraq malaki began placing shiite ally in high places in the military...just like any politician in the Arab world he has to worry about being beheaded of corse he is going to protect himself as soon as we leave this is the way of Arab politics.
True Obama didn't create the Arab spring but when democratic resistance movements popped up in Syria he let them die and let an army of over 10000 isis militants gain control of dozens of cities and enough military equipment to rival most states in the region. Almost 200000 people have been killed in Syria and no one particularly cares and our government has done nothing but sit by and watch hundreds and thousands of civilians get killed. So while you argue 10 of thousands of Iraqis need our help, isis terrorists are openly training, equipping and planning for attacks on the west, there are AT LEAST 4 conflicts in the world that if left in check could spiral out of control and lead to genocidal activities 2 or 3 of them already have.
Also for the record
GWB never listened to his commanders on the ground either I'm not saying that he was perfect or even any good...I a merely making the point that this current crisis in Iraq has a lot more to do with Syria and Barack Obama then with GWB and iraq. It's easy to judge based on hindsight but actions on the ground have made that irrelevant we must act before this crisis gets worse and we watch isis spread into Lebanon turkey Jordan Gaza and who knows where else. A few paltry airstrikes will do nothing to stop isis they also have thousands of fighters with foreign passport who can easily get into western countries and cause havoc. These airstrikes are a joke the capital of the Islamic state is raqqua in Syria these airstrikes are only for poll numbers the obviously have no military objective other then to protect US citizens...I would argue that we must strike in Syria if we are ever serious about destroying isis.
I fail to see why it is America's fault that shiite militants led by moqtada Al sadr and funded by Iran began killing sunnis. We clearly underestimated the underlying hatred in this society but we could have left them to rebuild alone. The American people owe nothing to the baathist regime of saddam hussein which invaded peaceful and defenseless Kuwait and started one of the most brutal wars of the century...which ultimately led to the use of chemical weapons against civilians in halabja. You frame this article as if American soldiers are randomly murdering civilians but the truth is we risked our lives to make that country better...regardless of the outcome at least we tried. Also what does the American public think is going to happen when Syria has lost around 200000 people in civil war? Of corse when you let 10000 isis fighters capture cities in Syria your going to have issues not just in Iraq and Syria but the entire middle east and the world. If these militants can defeat bashar al assads military of corse they can beat the newly formed iraqi army. The so called "Arab spring" would be better known as the Islamist awakening. This president has never listened to the advice of his commanders on the ground the whole situation is all politics and poll numbers to him....Every single general told him to keep a small force in Iraq just as we have in every country that we've built from the ground up ( Germany, Japan, etc). Obama is happy to see Iraq fall just so that he could say I told you so...it's all deliberate...Unfortunately for him these isis militants are now a threat to the US homeland and will no doubt attack us soon...well see if you still think of us soldiers as murderers then.
Once again not Americans fault that shiite and sunni extremists funded and equipped by their respective allys (Iran, Saudi Arabia) began bombing each others mosques and fighting proxy wars in Iraq in order to gain control.
I know many civilians in Iraq I don't have to read a blog to find out what people think...and what people think is that America abandoned them to slaughter and holy war we should have obviously never left...we should have obviously stopped isis in Syria before the could establish a state.
And this girl lives in baghdad, therefore she is most likely Shia. If we let the Islamic state capture baghdad she will end up as a slave wife for some wahabi terrorist...so are we done arguing or do more people need to die besides the 200000 in Syria before we act?
You know and I know and everyone who has ever been on the ground in Iraq knows that the SOFA excuse is pretty lame.....Malaki and his goons had already agreed to in in principle the Obama administration wanted him to send it through iraqi parliament which would have caused Malaki to loose political support....does anyone in their right mind actually believe that the US govt would allow one of its soldiers to be tried in Iraq regardless of any paper agreement? The second US troops left Iraq malaki began placing shiite ally in high places in the military...just like any politician in the Arab world he has to worry about being beheaded of corse he is going to protect himself as soon as we leave this is the way of Arab politics.
True Obama didn't create the Arab spring but when democratic resistance movements popped up in Syria he let them die and let an army of over 10000 isis militants gain control of dozens of cities and enough military equipment to rival most states in the region. Almost 200000 people have been killed in Syria and no one particularly cares and our government has done nothing but sit by and watch hundreds and thousands of civilians get killed. So while you argue 10 of thousands of Iraqis need our help, isis terrorists are openly training, equipping and planning for attacks on the west, there are AT LEAST 4 conflicts in the world that if left in check could spiral out of control and lead to genocidal activities 2 or 3 of them already have.
Also for the record
GWB never listened to his commanders on the ground either I'm not saying that he was perfect or even any good...I a merely making the point that this current crisis in Iraq has a lot more to do with Syria and Barack Obama then with GWB and iraq. It's easy to judge based on hindsight but actions on the ground have made that irrelevant we must act before this crisis gets worse and we watch isis spread into Lebanon turkey Jordan Gaza and who knows where else. A few paltry airstrikes will do nothing to stop isis they also have thousands of fighters with foreign passport who can easily get into western countries and cause havoc. These airstrikes are a joke the capital of the Islamic state is raqqua in Syria these airstrikes are only for poll numbers the obviously have no military objective other then to protect US citizens...I would argue that we must strike in Syria if we are ever serious about destroying isis.
I fail to see why it is America's fault that shiite militants led by moqtada Al sadr and funded by Iran began killing sunnis. We clearly underestimated the underlying hatred in this society but we could have left them to rebuild alone. The American people owe nothing to the baathist regime of saddam hussein which invaded peaceful and defenseless Kuwait and started one of the most brutal wars of the century...which ultimately led to the use of chemical weapons against civilians in halabja. You frame this article as if American soldiers are randomly murdering civilians but the truth is we risked our lives to make that country better...regardless of the outcome at least we tried. Also what does the American public think is going to happen when Syria has lost around 200000 people in civil war? Of corse when you let 10000 isis fighters capture cities in Syria your going to have issues not just in Iraq and Syria but the entire middle east and the world. If these militants can defeat bashar al assads military of corse they can beat the newly formed iraqi army. The so called "Arab spring" would be better known as the Islamist awakening. This president has never listened to the advice of his commanders on the ground the whole situation is all politics and poll numbers to him....Every single general told him to keep a small force in Iraq just as we have in every country that we've built from the ground up ( Germany, Japan, etc). Obama is happy to see Iraq fall just so that he could say I told you so...it's all deliberate...Unfortunately for him these isis militants are now a threat to the US homeland and will no doubt attack us soon...well see if you still think of us soldiers as murderers then.