Gaddafi propaganda is repeated by the majority of leftist organisations and online, see coments above which call my aunts, uncles and cousin in Missrata facing bombardment and no escape (ships limited to foreign migrants and wounded, except fishing trawlers from Benghazi) ‘spoiled brats’.
Demands were clear from beginning videos and calls to Jazeera Arabic document peaceful protest and calls for end to 42 years of brutality, not even sham elections, no constituion, unlimited corruption and infrastructure in shambles (main hospital in Misrata the 3rd largest city has been ‘under maintenance’ for years, clinics private hospitals and trips to poorer Tunisia and Egypt is how Libyans get healthcare). There is a huge amount of video and photos of bodies torn apart by heavy calibre weapons during weeks of peaceful protests, including
an 8 year old girl in shahat, shot with 14.5 mm anti-aircraft machine gun in her home as protestors were outside
these cowardly spoiled brats in Mirata then withstood almost 2 months siege bombardment and repeated invasions as punishment, without help city will fall and suffer revenge spree of rape and dissapeared already happened in Misrata outskirts and in the reoccupied cities of Zwara and Zawiya
The inhuman ideologues commenting harangue Cole for siding with victims of Gaddafi's current atrocites and commiting another sin by pointing out the FACT that US Army in Fallujah at least allowed some civilians an escape route.
That was a foreign army of occupation but they did let some cvilians escape, I watched video of this in many reports on Jazeera which was on side of the victim as it consistently is (fine when they are Palestinian snd Iraqi but when it comes to Libyans Angry Arab and his ilk think this means boring obsessive coverage of Libyan whiny cowardly 'spoilt brats'). Jazeera showed horrific civilian casualties, siege conditions, hositals inder stress and abandoned any objectivity in Fallujah, Misrata and Libya gets much less time as they compete with other (less bloody) Arab revolutions and new policy means limit on graphic images.
I learned about fate of our family friends the Abu Fnas from this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLWoUA1FOxA of their kids blown literally to pieces in Misrata at end of March, showed this video and other incidents (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS5l4V_UotQ) from Misrata to people like above commentators and got heartless replies that really woke me up. It’s not just neocons or right-wing extremists, many on left have exactly same immorality will support and justify anything as long as politics is right.
It's also very readily lapped up by the majority of leftists, see coments above. They called my aunts, uncles aand cousin facing bombardment and no escape (ships limited to foreign migrants and wounded, except fishing trawlers from Benghazi) 'spoiled brats' for wanting an end to 42 years of brutality, not even sham elections, no constittuion, unlimited corruption and infrastructure in shambles (main hospital in Misrata the 3rd largest city has been 'under maintenance' for years, clinics private hospitals and trips to poorer Tunisia and Egypt is how Libyans get healthcare). The only thing the inhuman ideologues commenting above are interested in is Cole pointing out that Fallujah which happened years ago at leasst allowed some civilians an escape route.
That was a foreign army of occupation but they did let some cvilians escape, I watched that in a report on Jazeera which was on side of the victim as usual (in Libya Angry Arab and his ilk think this means boring obsessive coverage of Libyan spoilt brats, I'll use the same language when an ideologically appropriate army is carrying out atrocities) and shhowed civilian casualties, siege conditions, hositals inder stress. I saw video of our family friends the Abu Fnas kids blown literally to pieces in Misrata at end of March, showed it to people like above commentators and got heartless replies that really woke me up. It's not just neocons or right-wing extremists, many on left have exactly same immorality will support and justify anything as long as politics is right.
Well about soft power, Erdogan may gain Turkish and nonArab Muslim popularity for his stance but in Libya it has made Turkey almost hated in that country, and although less visceral the reaction is the same among ordinary Arab who see Turkey delaying and now sabotaging military action against a madman bent on staying in power at any cost. Turkey is now standing in the way of a revolution, and it may repet the mistake in Syria. We expect this stance from Arab regimes which are trying to suppress their own revolutions, including in Egypt and Tunisia were they want to rescue as much of the old regime as possible, but seeing Turkey act like this and insits it has the moral highground when opposing the French airstrikes that saved Benghazi exposes the rhetoric about regional protector of civilians that was clear with Darfur adn Iran but not to genderal Arab public who have been more transfixed and emotionally involved in Libya which is part of a larger revolutionary pan-Arab narrative.
Gaddafi propaganda is repeated by the majority of leftist organisations and online, see coments above which call my aunts, uncles and cousin in Missrata facing bombardment and no escape (ships limited to foreign migrants and wounded, except fishing trawlers from Benghazi) ‘spoiled brats’.
Demands were clear from beginning videos and calls to Jazeera Arabic document peaceful protest and calls for end to 42 years of brutality, not even sham elections, no constituion, unlimited corruption and infrastructure in shambles (main hospital in Misrata the 3rd largest city has been ‘under maintenance’ for years, clinics private hospitals and trips to poorer Tunisia and Egypt is how Libyans get healthcare). There is a huge amount of video and photos of bodies torn apart by heavy calibre weapons during weeks of peaceful protests, including
an 8 year old girl in shahat, shot with 14.5 mm anti-aircraft machine gun in her home as protestors were outside
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrvFYvtXsY0
Same with this man's wife in Tripoli suburb of Tajora, he says her head was blown to pieces by type of bullet which explodes on impact
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA3C_koeFPI
a guy peacefully protesting again shot in head with heavy weaponry
http://yfrog.com/h7ucplxj
and same in Tripoli
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCg-mrzHR9Q&feature=related&skipcontrinter=1
Peaceful protestors in Tripoli infront of mosque, women and men shouting solidarity with 100s killed in Benghazi at beginning of uprising
https://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=115763635164929
Protests in Misrata
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAVKipWN0lU
these cowardly spoiled brats in Mirata then withstood almost 2 months siege bombardment and repeated invasions as punishment, without help city will fall and suffer revenge spree of rape and dissapeared already happened in Misrata outskirts and in the reoccupied cities of Zwara and Zawiya
The inhuman ideologues commenting harangue Cole for siding with victims of Gaddafi's current atrocites and commiting another sin by pointing out the FACT that US Army in Fallujah at least allowed some civilians an escape route.
That was a foreign army of occupation but they did let some cvilians escape, I watched video of this in many reports on Jazeera which was on side of the victim as it consistently is (fine when they are Palestinian snd Iraqi but when it comes to Libyans Angry Arab and his ilk think this means boring obsessive coverage of Libyan whiny cowardly 'spoilt brats'). Jazeera showed horrific civilian casualties, siege conditions, hositals inder stress and abandoned any objectivity in Fallujah, Misrata and Libya gets much less time as they compete with other (less bloody) Arab revolutions and new policy means limit on graphic images.
I learned about fate of our family friends the Abu Fnas from this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLWoUA1FOxA of their kids blown literally to pieces in Misrata at end of March, showed this video and other incidents (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS5l4V_UotQ) from Misrata to people like above commentators and got heartless replies that really woke me up. It’s not just neocons or right-wing extremists, many on left have exactly same immorality will support and justify anything as long as politics is right.
It's also very readily lapped up by the majority of leftists, see coments above. They called my aunts, uncles aand cousin facing bombardment and no escape (ships limited to foreign migrants and wounded, except fishing trawlers from Benghazi) 'spoiled brats' for wanting an end to 42 years of brutality, not even sham elections, no constittuion, unlimited corruption and infrastructure in shambles (main hospital in Misrata the 3rd largest city has been 'under maintenance' for years, clinics private hospitals and trips to poorer Tunisia and Egypt is how Libyans get healthcare). The only thing the inhuman ideologues commenting above are interested in is Cole pointing out that Fallujah which happened years ago at leasst allowed some civilians an escape route.
That was a foreign army of occupation but they did let some cvilians escape, I watched that in a report on Jazeera which was on side of the victim as usual (in Libya Angry Arab and his ilk think this means boring obsessive coverage of Libyan spoilt brats, I'll use the same language when an ideologically appropriate army is carrying out atrocities) and shhowed civilian casualties, siege conditions, hositals inder stress. I saw video of our family friends the Abu Fnas kids blown literally to pieces in Misrata at end of March, showed it to people like above commentators and got heartless replies that really woke me up. It's not just neocons or right-wing extremists, many on left have exactly same immorality will support and justify anything as long as politics is right.
Well about soft power, Erdogan may gain Turkish and nonArab Muslim popularity for his stance but in Libya it has made Turkey almost hated in that country, and although less visceral the reaction is the same among ordinary Arab who see Turkey delaying and now sabotaging military action against a madman bent on staying in power at any cost. Turkey is now standing in the way of a revolution, and it may repet the mistake in Syria. We expect this stance from Arab regimes which are trying to suppress their own revolutions, including in Egypt and Tunisia were they want to rescue as much of the old regime as possible, but seeing Turkey act like this and insits it has the moral highground when opposing the French airstrikes that saved Benghazi exposes the rhetoric about regional protector of civilians that was clear with Darfur adn Iran but not to genderal Arab public who have been more transfixed and emotionally involved in Libya which is part of a larger revolutionary pan-Arab narrative.