Who did I insult? Jon Stewart. Naw he would never say that. So who did I insult?
This whole idea is nonsense. if that is an insult, not intended to be. I just speak to true things. CNN isn't reporting this because to them its BS. Yes i asked.
This going to just make the left..... Fill in the blank.
Would CNN and ABC have the same benefit? Jon Stewart. Does he benefit from these types of stories ?
If this was such a great argument, would CNN not be splashing it all over , every minute? Turner is already upset about the whole Turner/Time Warner deal. Has been for years. Soro's, like Murdoch, hates to lose a penny through his investments. He will give it away, but hates to lose on an Investment.
As with Soro's and Time Warner, NewsCorp is an investment for Kingdom Holding. They are very clear and precise as to what their Investment objectives are, their parameters, and Risk/Reward goals are.
Being that one of their main investment objectives is cash flow , one could easily see how it would be more beneficial to them to manipulate CNN, as the stock really can't go much lower.
Also, one could say, lets change a couple of words. " CNN and Viacom benefits from the fear and turbulence occasioned by terrorism on the fundamentalist Left , whether Islamic or others." ?
Having such a goal, would not sit well with a Company like Apple, for instance. Think about that.
Once again, if this "game " is such a Home Run, why isn't CNN even reporting this? They don't want any more fires, such as ad revenue loss, as with the other investments of KH, their target demographics would fit CNN more than it would Fox.
This won't work. It would give Gibbs a boost though. It would explain his recent comments.
So George Soros and Ted Turner tell Anderson Cooper and Larry King what to say or do?
No, they don't. They try,maybe , but 7 % shareholders do not run the Company.
the notion that they do is silly. 7% isn't enough to trigger most By-laws into motion. what is he going to do? Tell Murdoch I will sell if you don't do as I say. If you think that, you don't know him very well. It is a profitable company, Unlike Time Warner. He could easily absorb the stock. It is an investment that he gets a nice return from, and he gets the expertise of NewsCorp for his Media property back home. They don't tell Murdoch what or what not to report. That model has proven to be very ineffective, and very Unprofitable . Murdoch is all about profits. That is what he is about.
Yes, I understand that shareholders own "shares" of a Corporation. Co-Owner(singular) is not a term used to describe someone with a 7 % stake. Never heard it used that way in 25 years.
"The major news networks including CNN were not helpful deciphering facts from fiction. Fox News may be a propaganda outlet; so is CNN, ABC News"
This is a good point, and why we should rethink this as something that will serve any purpose , besides showing that we will just say anything, true or not, to try to build the progress of "Change".
This is so bad to the democratic party, one I have been in for over 50 years , this really makes me think we have totally lost it. Everyone is saying facts, and yet, we are not using them. Could it be that there are some of us in this party that are fueling things like " Gibbs Far left comments" or Burton's reaffirming Gibbs statements, but in a nicer way?
The result of Jon Stewarts 'reporting" that This investment Company , Kingdom Holdings , which is run by this Prince for the entire Saudi Royal family , is that it is so convoluted, even Stewart was forced to remove it from his website. There were som I am sure, Un-intended consequences.
First, owning stock in NewsCorp, which is the parent Company of Fox News, is not being a "Co-owner " It is called being a Shareholder. This fund owns 7 % of NEWSCORPS stock. Not Fox news.
Second- This Holding Company, is also a publicly traded stock , traded on the London exchange. Anyone can buy it's stock , as they can NewsCorp.
Third-While follow the money is often a good thing, in this instance, the money trail leads back to the exact same thing people are attaking Fox for. I am not defending Fox, I am pointing out a blatant, Hyprocratic position, or line being drawn by factions of our party.
If what the premise of this story is true, that Fox news is in any way influenced by what this Prince does , and this is the result, then maybe we should look closer , and so should Stewart, as we all know about throwing stones in glass house.
This Holding Company bought NewsCorp stock .
This Holding Company is also the 3rd largest shareholder of Time Warner , Parent Company of CNN . The second largest is George Soros, and the largest shareholder of Time Warner , Is Ted Turner. Both active and suppotive to our party. Does this mean that CNN and Anderson Cooper, and all the "reporters on CNN are also C0-Owners" with the Kingdom Holdings , and influenced by the Stock holdings of it's 3 largest shareholders? Does this mean that George Soros and Turner stock ownership, make it biased , and do their bidding? No of course not. Does this also mean that CNN has ties to some "bad activities, allegedly linked to security issues. No, of course not.
The prince also is a significant shareholder of Disney, which is the Parent Company of ABC News. Are they involved in something? No of course not.
Next, a significant percentage of Apple Computers, is also owned by this same , Prince Controlled Public Company . Does that make Apple part of some conspiracy to engage in illicit activities? No, of Course not.
he is also a large shareholder of Sak's, pepsico, Four Seasons Hotel, Canary Wharf project, Motorola, P&G and a host of others.
The reason, I am sure why Stewart took this down, is that this Prince also has a large stake in a Company called Viacom. They own MTV's, and also the Commedy Network, which just so happens to own The daily Show with Jon Stewart. You see where this is going? Does Jon stewart get his paycheck from a nafarious Muslim ? No, of course not. It is a little hypocritical though.
This Prince is HIGHLY regarded by all sides, and VERY supportive of many liberal Companies, and People that own them. Are we all guilty of something, such as Stewart was suggesting? No of course not.
This is easily, thrown back at us by those who chose to do so. To use this as some sort of Gotcha, by many on the left, will end up making us look bad. We have had enough of that. Why do you think Jon took it down?
It is my hope that we reconsider this gottcha, because the left is just as involved as NewsCorp, which means do as we say, not as we do". that never works, and is already having condequences. I hope this is considered before we continue this issue. We come out looking like fools if we keep it up.
This is my opinion, and I respect those of others. I just want to make sure we are informed. This is not one to play with. Too many on the left with a lot to lose.
Who did I insult? Jon Stewart. Naw he would never say that. So who did I insult?
This whole idea is nonsense. if that is an insult, not intended to be. I just speak to true things. CNN isn't reporting this because to them its BS. Yes i asked.
This going to just make the left..... Fill in the blank.
Would CNN and ABC have the same benefit? Jon Stewart. Does he benefit from these types of stories ?
If this was such a great argument, would CNN not be splashing it all over , every minute? Turner is already upset about the whole Turner/Time Warner deal. Has been for years. Soro's, like Murdoch, hates to lose a penny through his investments. He will give it away, but hates to lose on an Investment.
As with Soro's and Time Warner, NewsCorp is an investment for Kingdom Holding. They are very clear and precise as to what their Investment objectives are, their parameters, and Risk/Reward goals are.
Being that one of their main investment objectives is cash flow , one could easily see how it would be more beneficial to them to manipulate CNN, as the stock really can't go much lower.
Also, one could say, lets change a couple of words. " CNN and Viacom benefits from the fear and turbulence occasioned by terrorism on the fundamentalist Left , whether Islamic or others." ?
Having such a goal, would not sit well with a Company like Apple, for instance. Think about that.
Once again, if this "game " is such a Home Run, why isn't CNN even reporting this? They don't want any more fires, such as ad revenue loss, as with the other investments of KH, their target demographics would fit CNN more than it would Fox.
This won't work. It would give Gibbs a boost though. It would explain his recent comments.
So George Soros and Ted Turner tell Anderson Cooper and Larry King what to say or do?
No, they don't. They try,maybe , but 7 % shareholders do not run the Company.
the notion that they do is silly. 7% isn't enough to trigger most By-laws into motion. what is he going to do? Tell Murdoch I will sell if you don't do as I say. If you think that, you don't know him very well. It is a profitable company, Unlike Time Warner. He could easily absorb the stock. It is an investment that he gets a nice return from, and he gets the expertise of NewsCorp for his Media property back home. They don't tell Murdoch what or what not to report. That model has proven to be very ineffective, and very Unprofitable . Murdoch is all about profits. That is what he is about.
Yes, I understand that shareholders own "shares" of a Corporation. Co-Owner(singular) is not a term used to describe someone with a 7 % stake. Never heard it used that way in 25 years.
My Argument is invalid because of a website?
Then they put it back up for hits, doesn't change any facts. CNN and ABC, and Viacom are doing the same thing.
Use this one. It will badly backfire.
"The major news networks including CNN were not helpful deciphering facts from fiction. Fox News may be a propaganda outlet; so is CNN, ABC News"
This is a good point, and why we should rethink this as something that will serve any purpose , besides showing that we will just say anything, true or not, to try to build the progress of "Change".
This is so bad to the democratic party, one I have been in for over 50 years , this really makes me think we have totally lost it. Everyone is saying facts, and yet, we are not using them. Could it be that there are some of us in this party that are fueling things like " Gibbs Far left comments" or Burton's reaffirming Gibbs statements, but in a nicer way?
The result of Jon Stewarts 'reporting" that This investment Company , Kingdom Holdings , which is run by this Prince for the entire Saudi Royal family , is that it is so convoluted, even Stewart was forced to remove it from his website. There were som I am sure, Un-intended consequences.
First, owning stock in NewsCorp, which is the parent Company of Fox News, is not being a "Co-owner " It is called being a Shareholder. This fund owns 7 % of NEWSCORPS stock. Not Fox news.
Second- This Holding Company, is also a publicly traded stock , traded on the London exchange. Anyone can buy it's stock , as they can NewsCorp.
Third-While follow the money is often a good thing, in this instance, the money trail leads back to the exact same thing people are attaking Fox for. I am not defending Fox, I am pointing out a blatant, Hyprocratic position, or line being drawn by factions of our party.
If what the premise of this story is true, that Fox news is in any way influenced by what this Prince does , and this is the result, then maybe we should look closer , and so should Stewart, as we all know about throwing stones in glass house.
This Holding Company bought NewsCorp stock .
This Holding Company is also the 3rd largest shareholder of Time Warner , Parent Company of CNN . The second largest is George Soros, and the largest shareholder of Time Warner , Is Ted Turner. Both active and suppotive to our party. Does this mean that CNN and Anderson Cooper, and all the "reporters on CNN are also C0-Owners" with the Kingdom Holdings , and influenced by the Stock holdings of it's 3 largest shareholders? Does this mean that George Soros and Turner stock ownership, make it biased , and do their bidding? No of course not. Does this also mean that CNN has ties to some "bad activities, allegedly linked to security issues. No, of course not.
The prince also is a significant shareholder of Disney, which is the Parent Company of ABC News. Are they involved in something? No of course not.
Next, a significant percentage of Apple Computers, is also owned by this same , Prince Controlled Public Company . Does that make Apple part of some conspiracy to engage in illicit activities? No, of Course not.
he is also a large shareholder of Sak's, pepsico, Four Seasons Hotel, Canary Wharf project, Motorola, P&G and a host of others.
The reason, I am sure why Stewart took this down, is that this Prince also has a large stake in a Company called Viacom. They own MTV's, and also the Commedy Network, which just so happens to own The daily Show with Jon Stewart. You see where this is going? Does Jon stewart get his paycheck from a nafarious Muslim ? No, of course not. It is a little hypocritical though.
This Prince is HIGHLY regarded by all sides, and VERY supportive of many liberal Companies, and People that own them. Are we all guilty of something, such as Stewart was suggesting? No of course not.
This is easily, thrown back at us by those who chose to do so. To use this as some sort of Gotcha, by many on the left, will end up making us look bad. We have had enough of that. Why do you think Jon took it down?
It is my hope that we reconsider this gottcha, because the left is just as involved as NewsCorp, which means do as we say, not as we do". that never works, and is already having condequences. I hope this is considered before we continue this issue. We come out looking like fools if we keep it up.
This is my opinion, and I respect those of others. I just want to make sure we are informed. This is not one to play with. Too many on the left with a lot to lose.
Thank you