As a Latin American, My experience of US troops or US interferenece is vastly different from your experience as a German and European. The first country the USA invaded was Cuba in 1898. The first foreign government ever toppled by the State Department was that of Cipriano Castro in Venezuela, in 1908.
As you can see, Nazi Germany didn´t even exist. Or the Soviet Union, for that matter.
It can be argued that you were liberated by the US..and the USSR. It is completely justifiable your fear of the Warsaw pact. But we saw the Soviet bloc in a very different way from you.
For you, the American presence began in 1945, and was justified. For us, it began in 1898 and was hardly justified.
Nevertheless, there are STILL american military presence in Europe, something that even the US public opinion finds difficult to understand.
The Cold War ended in 1990. It offcially began in 1945. As I pointed out some posts above, U.S intervention began in 1898. Many other interventions have happened since 1990.
Of course, US Support to Britain was never in the Open. The support was not with troops, but logistically, of intelligence, of satellite information, etc etc. Of course they will never acknowledge it!
From Wikipedia: The White House continued its neutrality; Reagan famously declared at the time that he could not understand why two allies were arguing over "that little ice-cold bunch of land down there". But he assented to Haig and Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger's position. Haig briefly (April 8–April 30) headed a "shuttle diplomacy" mission between London and Buenos Aires. According to a BBC documentary titled "The Falklands War and the White House",[19] Caspar Weinberger's Department of Defense began a number of non-public actions to support and supply the British military while Haig's shuttle diplomacy was still ongoing. Haig's message to the Argentines was that the British would indeed fight, and that the U.S. would support Britain, but at the time he was not aware that the U.S. was providing support already.
Indeed, Chile did help the British. All those are known facts. The leader of Chile was General Pinochet, who was there thanks to a U.S backed coup (that´s why Chile is in red in that map, you see)Please, do not try to make it appear as if Pinochet's thugs and chicago boys constituted the prevalent opinion of average Latin Americans. Pinochet did, of course, showed the views of Kissinger, Nixon, Reagan, and everyone who put hinm in power. Not the average chileno.
Please Bill. Really. We're not stupid.
My impression is that your impression is vastly mistaken, since as it is, it is the view of an out of touch "USAmerican". You vastly underestimate the general view of the average Latin American as "Better united than divided". Please, I am not implying an offense to you.
It is difficult for the average american citizen to believe that it´s government has donde any harm to anyone .
Also Bill, you will see that nothing is static. 30+ years later, with democratically elected governments, almost all, if not all of countries in the region support Argentina's claims.
The idea was to "liberate" Cuba... and leave. But the US just wouldn´t let go. Quite simply, there was no "liberation", that colonial power Spain was replaced with that colonial power the USA. All cuban dictators until Fidel were US puppets. Dictator Fidel was/is no US puppet, hence all this hatred.
The Cold War ended in 1990. It offcially began in 1945. As I pointed out some posts above, U.S intervention began in 1898. Many other interventions have happened since 1990.
As a Latin American, My experience of US troops or US interferenece is vastly different from your experience as a German and European. The first country the USA invaded was Cuba in 1898. The first foreign government ever toppled by the State Department was that of Cipriano Castro in Venezuela, in 1908.
As you can see, Nazi Germany didn´t even exist.
It can be argued that you were liberated by the US..and the USSR. It is completely justifiable your fear of the Warsaw pact. But we saw the Soviet bloc in a very different way from you.
For you, the American presence began in 1945, and was justified. For us, it began in 1898 and was hardly justified.
Nevertheless, there are STILL american military presence in Europe, something that even the US public opinion finds difficult to understand.
To Andreas Moser:
As a Latin American, My experience of US troops or US interferenece is vastly different from your experience as a German and European. The first country the USA invaded was Cuba in 1898. The first foreign government ever toppled by the State Department was that of Cipriano Castro in Venezuela, in 1908.
As you can see, Nazi Germany didn´t even exist. Or the Soviet Union, for that matter.
It can be argued that you were liberated by the US..and the USSR. It is completely justifiable your fear of the Warsaw pact. But we saw the Soviet bloc in a very different way from you.
For you, the American presence began in 1945, and was justified. For us, it began in 1898 and was hardly justified.
Nevertheless, there are STILL american military presence in Europe, something that even the US public opinion finds difficult to understand.
Greetings.
I wonder how would you feel, Bill, if China or Russia "intervened" in, Say, Hawaii, or Puerto Rico.
You went bonkers when the USSR intervened in Cuba!And I´m talking about BEFORE the Missile crisis!
To I_like_ike52 (and to Bill):
The Cold War ended in 1990. It offcially began in 1945. As I pointed out some posts above, U.S intervention began in 1898. Many other interventions have happened since 1990.
What´s your explanation?
Greetings.
Bill:
Of course, US Support to Britain was never in the Open. The support was not with troops, but logistically, of intelligence, of satellite information, etc etc. Of course they will never acknowledge it!
From Wikipedia: The White House continued its neutrality; Reagan famously declared at the time that he could not understand why two allies were arguing over "that little ice-cold bunch of land down there". But he assented to Haig and Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger's position. Haig briefly (April 8–April 30) headed a "shuttle diplomacy" mission between London and Buenos Aires. According to a BBC documentary titled "The Falklands War and the White House",[19] Caspar Weinberger's Department of Defense began a number of non-public actions to support and supply the British military while Haig's shuttle diplomacy was still ongoing. Haig's message to the Argentines was that the British would indeed fight, and that the U.S. would support Britain, but at the time he was not aware that the U.S. was providing support already.
At the end of the month, Reagan blamed Argentina for the failure of the mediation, declared U.S. support for Britain, and announced the imposition of economic sanctions against Argentina. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Events_leading_to_the_Falklands_War#Shuttle_diplomacy_and_U.S._involvement
Indeed, Chile did help the British. All those are known facts. The leader of Chile was General Pinochet, who was there thanks to a U.S backed coup (that´s why Chile is in red in that map, you see)Please, do not try to make it appear as if Pinochet's thugs and chicago boys constituted the prevalent opinion of average Latin Americans. Pinochet did, of course, showed the views of Kissinger, Nixon, Reagan, and everyone who put hinm in power. Not the average chileno.
Please Bill. Really. We're not stupid.
My impression is that your impression is vastly mistaken, since as it is, it is the view of an out of touch "USAmerican". You vastly underestimate the general view of the average Latin American as "Better united than divided". Please, I am not implying an offense to you.
It is difficult for the average american citizen to believe that it´s government has donde any harm to anyone .
Also Bill, you will see that nothing is static. 30+ years later, with democratically elected governments, almost all, if not all of countries in the region support Argentina's claims.
Bill:
The idea was to "liberate" Cuba... and leave. But the US just wouldn´t let go. Quite simply, there was no "liberation", that colonial power Spain was replaced with that colonial power the USA. All cuban dictators until Fidel were US puppets. Dictator Fidel was/is no US puppet, hence all this hatred.
Please Bill. We're not children.
To I_like_ike52 :
The Cold War ended in 1990. It offcially began in 1945. As I pointed out some posts above, U.S intervention began in 1898. Many other interventions have happened since 1990.
What´s your explanation?
Greetings.
To Juan:
Gladio or not;
The Map omits Venezuela, Argentina and Paraguay.
Suffice to say that there is documented U.S involvement in the Venezuelan coups of 1945, 1948, 1958 and 2002.
As for Argentina, I´m less of an expert, but the U.S did help Britain in the Malvinas (Falklands) conflict.
Greetings.
To Andreas Moser:
As a Latin American, My experience of US troops or US interferenece is vastly different from your experience as a German and European. The first country the USA invaded was Cuba in 1898. The first foreign government ever toppled by the State Department was that of Cipriano Castro in Venezuela, in 1908.
As you can see, Nazi Germany didn´t even exist.
It can be argued that you were liberated by the US..and the USSR. It is completely justifiable your fear of the Warsaw pact. But we saw the Soviet bloc in a very different way from you.
For you, the American presence began in 1945, and was justified. For us, it began in 1898 and was hardly justified.
Nevertheless, there are STILL american military presence in Europe, something that even the US public opinion finds difficult to understand.
Greetings.
There's an old Latin American "joke":
You know why there are never any military coups in the USA?
Because they don´t have an american embassy to organize it.