This is not a 'no fly zone' resolution. It is a resolution to dissolve the Libyan Government. If it doesn't fall or resign it will be taken apart by the 'rebels' with weapons supplied from outside. This is a resolution to support war. Already Madame Clinton has said Gaddafi must go. There is no wriggle room. And if anyone who supports the Libyan Government opposes the rebel attacks - they will be killed with the full support and backing of the United Nations.
Juan you say 'An international tribunal is still trying to affix blame in that killing'. Implicit in your tone is that it is a free and fair international tribunal. Are you so sure?
Production is one thing but hedging is another. The hedge market (US banks and the like) pushed the price to $150 a barrel not so long ago. I'd like to see the figures for their role in the current price hike.
"¶4. SADDAM, WHOSE MANNER WAS CORDIAL,
REASONABLE AND EVEN WARM THROUGHOUT THE ENSUING
TWO HOURS, SAID HE WISHED THE AMBASSADOR TO
CONVEY A MESSAGE TO PRESIDENT BUSH. SADDAM
THEN RECALLED IN DETAIL THE HISTORY OF IRAQ'S
DECISION TO REESTABLISH DIPLOMATIC RELATIONS
AND ITS POSTPONING IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT
DECISION AT THE BEGINNING OF THE WAR, RATHER THAN BE
THOUGHT WEAK AND NEEDY. HE THEN SPOKE ABOUT THE
MANY "BLOWS" OUR RELATIONS HAVE BEEN SUBJECTED TO
SINCE 1984, CHIEF AMONG THEM IRANGATE. IT WAS
AFTER THE FAW VICTORY, SADDAM SAID, THAT IRAQI
MISAPPREHENSIONS ABOUT USG PURPOSES BEGAN TO
SURFACE AGAIN, I.E., SUSPICIONS THAT THE U.S. WAS
NOT HAPPY TO SEE THE WAR END."
I guess the Irangate revelations pissed him off heaps too. Knowing that both Iran and Iraq had been played the fool while the US and Israel sold both sides weapons and provided intel to keep them fighting and killing each other so than no side could 'win'.
When you look at many of the cables much is about highlighting regional instability - in fact upping the instability while the USG pimps for weapons contracts and 'security assistance'. Perhaps this is at the heart of the problems that beset American society. So dependent upon weapons and killing machines to keep the economy going. And politicians so wedded to these industries to maintain their local base of support. Simplistic maybe but pernicious on the body politic.
Well it is my understanding that before the fall of White South Africa it WAS a nuclear weapon owner. I wouldn't be surprised if that 'flash' in the southern Indian Ocean in the 1970's wasn't a joint Israel/SAfrica nuclear test.
There are many factors that go into shaping US policy on Iran. Oil/gas is an obvious one. Israel is another and neither will tolerate opposition to their hegemonic designs. Regime change is the starting point and all sanctions and maneuvers are designed with that in mind. If Iran didn't have a uranium enrichment program other issues would be offered up for the tightening of the screws. Add to that Iranian influence in Iraqi politics and the outlook gets even nastier.
This is not a 'no fly zone' resolution. It is a resolution to dissolve the Libyan Government. If it doesn't fall or resign it will be taken apart by the 'rebels' with weapons supplied from outside. This is a resolution to support war. Already Madame Clinton has said Gaddafi must go. There is no wriggle room. And if anyone who supports the Libyan Government opposes the rebel attacks - they will be killed with the full support and backing of the United Nations.
Looks like petty point scoring to me.
Unencumbered by political slant, distortion or obfuscation.
Juan you say 'An international tribunal is still trying to affix blame in that killing'. Implicit in your tone is that it is a free and fair international tribunal. Are you so sure?
Production is one thing but hedging is another. The hedge market (US banks and the like) pushed the price to $150 a barrel not so long ago. I'd like to see the figures for their role in the current price hike.
The thing is Saddam was a fool and the US would have known this and acted accordingly in what they thought was their interest. Bastards all of them.
"¶4. SADDAM, WHOSE MANNER WAS CORDIAL,
REASONABLE AND EVEN WARM THROUGHOUT THE ENSUING
TWO HOURS, SAID HE WISHED THE AMBASSADOR TO
CONVEY A MESSAGE TO PRESIDENT BUSH. SADDAM
THEN RECALLED IN DETAIL THE HISTORY OF IRAQ'S
DECISION TO REESTABLISH DIPLOMATIC RELATIONS
AND ITS POSTPONING IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT
DECISION AT THE BEGINNING OF THE WAR, RATHER THAN BE
THOUGHT WEAK AND NEEDY. HE THEN SPOKE ABOUT THE
MANY "BLOWS" OUR RELATIONS HAVE BEEN SUBJECTED TO
SINCE 1984, CHIEF AMONG THEM IRANGATE. IT WAS
AFTER THE FAW VICTORY, SADDAM SAID, THAT IRAQI
MISAPPREHENSIONS ABOUT USG PURPOSES BEGAN TO
SURFACE AGAIN, I.E., SUSPICIONS THAT THE U.S. WAS
NOT HAPPY TO SEE THE WAR END."
I guess the Irangate revelations pissed him off heaps too. Knowing that both Iran and Iraq had been played the fool while the US and Israel sold both sides weapons and provided intel to keep them fighting and killing each other so than no side could 'win'.
When you look at many of the cables much is about highlighting regional instability - in fact upping the instability while the USG pimps for weapons contracts and 'security assistance'. Perhaps this is at the heart of the problems that beset American society. So dependent upon weapons and killing machines to keep the economy going. And politicians so wedded to these industries to maintain their local base of support. Simplistic maybe but pernicious on the body politic.
Well it is my understanding that before the fall of White South Africa it WAS a nuclear weapon owner. I wouldn't be surprised if that 'flash' in the southern Indian Ocean in the 1970's wasn't a joint Israel/SAfrica nuclear test.
There are many factors that go into shaping US policy on Iran. Oil/gas is an obvious one. Israel is another and neither will tolerate opposition to their hegemonic designs. Regime change is the starting point and all sanctions and maneuvers are designed with that in mind. If Iran didn't have a uranium enrichment program other issues would be offered up for the tightening of the screws. Add to that Iranian influence in Iraqi politics and the outlook gets even nastier.