Dems Back Phased Withdrawal
Republicans: Stay and Stay, Spend and Spend
Senate Democrats have come up with two resolutions, with most of the coalescing around the vaguer one.
AP describes the more popular resolution:
' The resolution would urge _ but not require _ the administration to begin "a phased redeployment of U.S. forces" in 2006 and, by year's end, give Congress its plan for "continued redeployment" thereafter. Additionally, the resolution calls for American troops, which have been focused on combat operations in Iraq, to more quickly switch to "a limited mission of training and logistic support of Iraqi security forces, protection of U.S. personnel and facilities, and targeting counterterrorism activities." It also maps out steps Senate Democrats say the fledgling Iraqi government must take to lay the foundation for a successful democracy and calls for an international conference to help Iraq overcome problems it faces. '
My hero, Russ Feingold, and other heroes Barbara Boxer and John Kerry, are pushing a more specific withdrawal plan with a July 1, 2007 deadline for withdrawal of most US forces. AP says:
' It would require the administration to withdraw all combat troops from Iraq by July 1, 2007, leaving in place only U.S. troops essential to training Iraqi security forces, conducting counterterrorism operations and protecting U.S. personnel and facilities. "A deadline gives Iraqis the best chance for stability and self-government, and most importantly, it allows us to begin refocusing on the true threats that face our country," Kerry and Feingold, two Democrats eying potential presidential candidacies in 2008, said in a joint statement. '
The old traitor Karl Rove, who revealed the identity of covert CIA operative Valerie Plame to the Iranians (and everyone else), castigated the Democrats' proposals as "cut and run." Rove wants us to go on spending $5 billion a month in Iraq, and to go on losing thousands of maimed young people.
Here are some other examples of cutting and running:
The United States withdrew from the Philippines in 1946.
Britain withdrew from India in 1947.
France withdrew from Morocco and Tunisia in 1956.
France withdrew from Algeria in 1962.
Rove only has two choices. He either has to agree that these withdrawals were a good thing, or he has to blame Britain and France for cutting and running. Does this mean he thinks the US should try to re-colonize the Philippines? Does he want France to take back over Algeria? By the way, neither India nor Algeria was stable when the colonial power withdrew.
Either, Mr. Rove, the US is a Republic among independent nations, or it is a Colonial Power intent on subjecting other peoples. If it is a Republic, it should be leaving Iraq to the Iraqis. If it is a Colonial Power, then it is doomed. Because no instance of successful foreign colonialism on the nineteenth-century model has been implemented in the past 50 years, for the simple reason that the peoples of the global south are socially and politically mobilized-- literate, urban, industrial, skilled, networked-- in a way they never were before in history. And no mobilized people can be successfully occupied.
The US military presence in Iraq is retarding a political settlement. It makes the Shiites and Kurds cocky and unwilling to compromise with the Sunni Arabs. It keeps the Iraqi army weak and ineffective, lacking proper armor or an air force. And US military tactics of search and destroy are turning progressively more Iraqis against us over time. The longer the US stays in Iraq, the more likely it is that one day one of our cities will be attacked by Iraqi terrorists bearing a grudge for Fallujah or Tal Afar or whatever other Iraqi cities we plan to destroy.
And, about that $5 billion a month. I live in the Detroit area. This is what my city looks like:

Could we please have just one of those $5 billion dollar installments you are squandering in Iraq, Mr. Rove, to -- you know-- fix up Detroit a little bit. I'd say those windows need replacing. And since you painted all those schools over there, maybe you wouldn't mind painting some of the buildings in my area. We don't have any oil, but we have a helluva port and enormous industrial capacity. It is just that, you know, the Federal government has been busy rebuilding a foreign country (which somehow still seems to be in flames and run down, despite having its own petroleum). And somehow my city just isn't a priority. In fact, you can correct me if I'm wrong, Mr. Rove, but my recollection is that neglect of Detroit has driven its population below 1 million, and that as a result, the Federal government actually cut back on the aid it gives the city. Is that really good urban policy? Wouldn't it make more sense to bring Detroit back to life and reinvigorate the American Midwest?
Is it cut and run? Or is it 'withdraw and spend American money on Americans'?
And what is the Republican plan? Is it "Stay and stay, and Spend and Spend?"

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Thanks for standing up to the 100 decibel nonsense pouring out of the White House again.
Rove only has two choices. He either has to agree that these withdrawals were a good thing, or he has to blame Britain and France for cutting and running.
It's not Rove who has the two choices, he's an utterly unprincipled lout who will say anything to get Americans fighting each other, it's the Demoplican Party.
And the Demoplican Party, apparently as unprincipled as Karl Rove, needs to just ignore this nonsense about "cutting and running" and dial back in to reality : this war was an illegal act of aggression and remains an illegal and immoral occupation.
The troops must come home because they never should have left our shores to begin with. Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Douglas Feith and their dummy, war criminals all, have made war criminals out of our erstwhile innocent American troops while murdering tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of innocent Iraqis in cold blood.
The troops must come home because this is WRONG!
Please see the Spanish reversal back when this regime's collaborators were heaved out there for an example of doing the right thing. The Spanish people, unlike us Americans who re-elected a war criminal, did the right thing.
And what is the Republican plan? Is it "Stay and stay, and Spend and Spend?"
It is "Stay and Stay, Borrow and Borrow, (for their entire war is 'on the cuff', now that they a have arranged to collect the interest the rest of us pay on their debt), Spend and Spend". And if it doesn't work... no prolem! Golden Parachutes and Presidential Pardons all around.
Bush will withdraw/redeploy troops. He has no option.
1) The US military is getting structural damage from its deployment. This is the judgement of people like Murtha and Powell.
2) The Iraqis have told him to go. It will be suicidal to overrule the Iraqi parliament and government.
3) The grown-ups in Washington are gradually taking over. Bush is deeply wounded by the war.
4) The cost is hurting badly. Inflation, an automatic but delayed result of the dollar devaluation, will end the borrowing madness as interest rates rise.
Bush doesn't have to pay a writer for his pre-November speech. Here is one for free:
"There were those of you who doubted that we can win, and wanted to cut and run before our victory. There were those of you who said we wanted to occupy Iraq. We have prove both of you wrong.
Today, I am announcing that a great milestone in our war on terrorism has been achieved, and have therefore authorized the reduction of our troops in Iraq to 80,000.
Had we cut and run, the future of the Middle East and the whole world would have been in jeopardy but we never wavered and we stayed the course.
As we see the great progress in Iraq cement itself, more of our proud troops will come home, in dignity and with the gratitude of our Iraqi allies"
Perhaps we could say the most egregious form of cutting and running was George III, from most of North America, in 1776.
Imagine, if he hadn't done that we'd be part of Canada and have a decent health-care system and a military with great expertise in true peacekeeping operations... (And I bet that Detroit/Windsor would be a huge, busy, and safe metropolis.)
Only one of the withdrawals you cite bears an ethno-religious dimension comparable to Iraq.
Britain withdrew from India in 1947. The partition of the Hindu and Muslim dominated zones forced the migration of perhaps 14 million and maybe as many as 1 million deaths. Were a similar partition to follow a brusque US departure from Iraq, would history blame this on Rove, too, or ascribe it to internal sovereign affairs?
Of course, the Left and Islamists will blame W and Rove, or generic US imperialism, no matter what. Had there been no 2003 invasion, the L&I would blame the US for Iraqi oppresion, whether it had continued the sanctions or normalized ties to the tyrant Saddam. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
The outcome of any "regime change," whatever the premise, was unlikely to be pretty or easy. Neither Kerry, Boxer, Murtha, or even JC have a good idea how to disengage and avoid chaos.
Rhetoric aside, Rove is smart enough to see this. US troops will be gone or greatly reduced by 2008, no matter what. However, there is enormous advantage to maintain a steadfast "posture," while letting the Dems mouth defeatist talk that Red America will consider a stab in the back. GOP candidates in 2008 will be even more inclined to play this card if loss of the Senate in 2006 puts policy in the hands of Dems and Iraq fizzles into a Somalia (or a partition-era India) as the US exits.
There is not a dime of difference between a "stay the course [until 2008]" or a "get out now [by 2008]" unless either proponent defines exactly how they intend to achieve Iraqification of the counter-insurgency. I doubt any Sunni dominated international conference would appease any of the Iraqi factions. Can you see Muqtada or Hakim endorsing a power sharing formula backed by Jordan, Egypt, and Saudi?
Speaking of Detroit, here is a letter of mine they printed in the local paper.. Bushco never does anything, they just spin and spin, trying to make you think they are spinning straw into gold.
Detroit Roulette
I am in shock and awe of the Bush Brain Trust's grasp of reality. The only major breakup of a terror cell since 9-11, and who caught them? The Royal Canadian Mounted Police. Not Homeland Security, not the new National Security Department, not the FBI. And was this terror group coming in across the Mexican Border? Not at all, it was located a little more than 100 miles east of Detroit near Toronto. That's in Canada, you might have heard of it.
Canada is 2% Muslim, 600,000 people. Toronto has one of the largest Arab and Muslim populations in North America, equaled only by that of Detroit. One of the busiest border crossings in the world connects the two places. Americans don’t think of Detroit as a border town, but the line is a thousand feet off the riverside. You could look at a map.
And Homeland Security doesn’t want to slow down the GM trucks shuttling auto parts across the border, does it? Much safer to watch poor Mexicans die of dehydration in Arizona. Cheaper too.
And Mexicans are hard to tell from Arabs… if you're a racist, it's almost impossible.
I think that picture of Detroit is powerful. Really, you could put it in a collection of Iraq city photos and it would fit right in. Sadly, repairing an inner city is just not on their agenda. And let’s face it, a city like Detroit has (at least) two disadvantages in their eyes: it doesn’t sit on oil, and it’s largely African American. I live in Baltimore and, away from the trendier areas like the Harbor and the stadiums, there is a lot of the same decay in the inner city.
I’ve been saying this for years: they accuse Democrats of being “tax and spend,” but I’ve always accused Republicans of being “spend and spend.” If the accusation against Democrats is correct, at least they have income to account for their spending. The Republicans spend and spend and have no way to pay for it. It’s like losing your job and deciding to buy a Corvette and go on a month-long vacation to Hawaii. If Democrats presented a united front like the Republicans have, they’d hammer home this spend and spend mantra.
Great post. Somehow though, I imagine that Heliburton and the like get more of that $6bl than anyone else does. Bu$hco and the Corporate GOP, really have wasted so much in resources that that missing investment will really be felt in the next economic depression. They will regret ousting Saddam over forcing Americans into negative savings for the first time since the Great Depression.
Bush-Cheney-Rove have their own Run and Cut Plan, make no mistake about it.
Running out the course of the war until 2008, running through more thousands of lives and billions of dollars.
Cutting out (of office) in 2009, leaving the whole Mess-o-Potania to a Hillary Clinton (the only Democrat likely to want it).
Running in 2012 on the platform of "Who Lost Iraq?".
That's the plan.
I would bet my rent money, that if you administer the ultimate truth serum to Karl Rove, or to Dick Cheney, they would admit that they regard the US as a colonial power.
Further, because they do not seem to be able to think outside of a very narrow box, they would argue that being a colonial power is a necessary and desirable thing. After all, the main impetus behind colonialism was the acquisition and exploitation of new resources. In America, oil is key to keeping our economy chugging along in its' same old groove. So, securing oil resources is essential, which, in turn, is more than adequate reason for establishing colonies in oil rich countries.
Developing alternative sources of energy, or changing our society so that we are less dependent on motorized transportation, are things that Rove, Cheney, and the neo-cons have neither the will nor the intelligence to implement. Besides, such changes would mess with the quarterly profit reports of their corporate friends.
Their are many reasons given for the Iraq war, but the bottom line is that Cheney and Co. saw an opportunity to expand the American Empire while cloaking the move in seeking justice, enhancing security, promoting democracy, and spreading American exceptionalism. Is it any wonder that this administration begins to act like any other imperial entity whose only goal is power?
Yow, Doctor! You are howling today! I'm sure the Detroit city council appreciates you posting a picture of a junky empty lot as representative of their city.
Query: The special prosecutor knows who gave Bob Novak the tip that eventually led him to Valerie Plame (risking her life daily for America in an upscale Virginia suburb). Why do you think he hasn't he indicted that guy?
CMAR II
It's not "Stay and stay and spend and spend" or even "stay and stay and borrow and borrow and spend and spend"
It is actually "stay and stay and spend and spend and borrow and borrow and kill and kill and kill and kill and kill and kill and kill and kill and kill.....
If they gave a damn about Iraq, they would note and record all Iraqi deaths - and make it public.
If they ever wanted Iraq to be independent and in charge of their own security (that is "stand up") then they would be building them an air force.
And that last one is never going to happen as long as Bushits are running the show.
It kind of reminds me of the reluctance of some people (ie. Republicans like Dick Cheney in particular) to cut their support for and run from the apartheid regime in South Africa!
'Cut & run," versus "stay and help al Qaeda"?
I'm sure Rove can sell that one. Once again, Bush will answer the terrorists' prayers. It can never be said that the president ignores the needs of people of faith.
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Mr. Koch,
Basically you are saying that the politics being played are sound but the morality is in the toilet?
I am overjoyed.
Ialso particularly like the "Left and Islamists" jab there in paragraph #2. What does that mean precisely?
The Rove plan for the Iraq orgy of death is the opposite of "cut and run." He calls it "rut and come."
This post really gets to the heart of all the problems our nation is facing right now. The republicans in charge are indeed on the SPEND AND SPEND track. But somehow, unbelievably, they are never held to account for all this military and international black operations spending they are engaged in. Condi Rice wants all that money, for what? Propoganda and PR. It's time for Congress to cut off all this insane spending on medling in the affairs of foreign nations (i.e. North American Imperialism), and spend all of that money on fixing our own nation.
Here are some PR ideas - start flooding the internet with pictures like this one of our own cities in decay; drive home the "spend and spend" mantra; and frame the pull-out in terms that our culture can grasp: poker. "You've got to know when to hold em,' and KNOW WHEN TO FOLD EM." Yes, you can't win all the time by BLUFFING - especially when the other players have learned to recognize your little ticks!
Oh - and to CMAR II: check out this article at Truthout.org from Monday, at http://forum.truthout.org/blog/story/2006/6/19/185947/499. Here's the money quote: That leaves the most important question: If our sources maintain that a grand jury has returned an indictment - and we have pointed to a criminal case number that we are told corresponds to it - then how is it possible that Patrick Fitzgerald is reported to have said that 'he does not anticipate seeking charges against Rove at this time?' That is a very troubling question, and the truth is, we do not yet have a definitive answer. We also continue to be very troubled that no one has seen the reported communication from Fitzgerald to Rove's attorney Robert Luskin, and more importantly, how so much public judgment could be based on a communication that Luskin will not put on the table. Before we can assess the glaring contradiction between what our sources say and what Luskin says Fitzgerald faxed to him, we need to be able to consider what was faxed - and in its entirety.
Hmmm - very interesting!
"Cut and Run" has become the mantra of certain conservatives who use the term to imply that anyone in favor of disengagement and withdrawal from Iraq.
However, it is my understanding this term is a nautical term that orinated during the age of sailing ships.
Warships that depended upon wind and sails for mobility were at a great disadvantage if attacked while at anchor. (Pearl Harbor shows that any ship at anchor is at potential peril). "Cut" refers to cutting the anchor or mooring lines so as to free the ship to manuever. In the event of an attack, there was not time to weigh anchor in the ordinary fashion.
"Run" refers to running before the wind or adjusting the sails so the ship could take advantage of the wind and maneuver against its attacker.
The alternative was to sit at anchor and suffer multiple broadsides. This may be where the image of a "sitting duck" originated. If we do not cut and run in Iraq, we will continue to sit at anchor and suffer unnecessary damage.
Powerful image from Detroit, per haps equally powerful to Iraq's - including a desolate bus and the visage of Al-Muhajer, revealed as an Egyptian...along with a pastoral scene that communicates what the countryside is really like
You reap what you sow, and so the US will reap the enmity of those it treats poorly. This must follow, just as the night follows the day.
Projecting military might into the far corners of the globe for the gain of the military-industrial complex, to keep the price of oil low (well, that was the intent, anyway), and just because it's settling a score between a despot and your Daddy aren't palatable, so wit had to be wrapped in the flag.
Rove is a brilliant - albeit soul-less - man. He correctly realizes that the increasing importance of money in getting re-elected leads to lower and lower turnover in any one position. Stacking the lower public offices with loyal Republicans ensures the success of the strategy.
Breaking the cycle can only occur if the voting public becomes so incensed as to the heinous nature of the misinformation spewing from Dubya and his cronies (aided by Fox News, Republican talk-show hosts, etc.) that they take it out on the whole party come election day.
"Cut and Run" is a beautiful bit of political artistry. Until the Democrats (or some other party) can present a viable, alternative political product to reach out to the middle of the political spectrum there the erosion of the heroic vision of America as a place of freedom, truth, justice, and opportunity for all will continue.
The sad end result is that when (a generation or so from now) the voters come to their senses, the US will be in decline. Causes: national debt, squandered post 9/11 goodwill, pollution, huge trade deficit, unsound public education, and so on. It's a long, long list, and the Supreme Court is likely to continue to side against the little guy again and again with that bizarre Alito-O'Connor 'swap'.
with all due respect, while it is true that the British withdrawal from India was the right thing to do, it involved a considerable amount of advanced planning and still led to a bloodbath between Hindus and Muslims (sound familiar?). the fact is that our "fearless" leaders have placed this country in a very difficult position -- and while I agree that withdrawal is the only moral and decent thing we can do -- to blithely dismiss the possible consequences does a complete disservice to history and reality...
Dear Juan,
Thanks very much for your web site. It is helpful to us to know what is going on over in the Middle East.
It is just amazing to me that some people still buy the arguments the Bushies make for "staying the course".
How are we not making plans to get out of Iraq?
Thanks, Professor Cole. GO BIG BLUE!
Ricky From Omaha
Juan:
I wonder why no one but you has talked about how the Bush administration keeps the Iraqi army weak - no armor, no air force, etc. How is it possible to leave Iraq with half an army?
I live in the hyper-prosperous Bay Area, but we have our war zones, too, and some of them are within five miles of my house. A rich friend at a wedding just told me about going to highschool volleyball games in Richmond, CA, near her exclusive hillside enclave. THe neighborhoods were so devastated that she said "how can this be America? How can this be happening here?" When Katrina happened, she and her family felt "now the rest of America sees what it's really like for people." They weren't surprised, they felt that the events of Katrina exposed what they've been seeing in Richmond, CA, so close to the fabulously wealthy hillside neighborhoods of the Berkeley hills.
People are dying in the zip code next to mine. Children are starving. Neighborhoods are filled with gunfire and open air drug dealing. And we're rich here in Northern California. God help Detroit...
Our values in this country are just out of whack. Thank you, Juan, for putting up the picture and asking the tough questions.
There is no bumper sticker solution to the Iraq whirlpool. We're caught in it and will not be able to leave with dignity.
In my view if the democrats want to get the nation back on course some them will have to sacrafice their political careers for the better good. They have to take positions that are clearly based on principle and unyielding to political expediency.
A place to start is to oppose in no uncertain terms military action against Iran and Korea. Bush, Cheney and Rice never really forgo the rhetoric of violent force. They treat the military like an all volunteer chain saw - ready to cut down whatever they choose.
But ambitious politicians like Kerry, Clinton, Obama, and many others will never lay down in front of the tanks.
Feingold will have a hard time sticking to his enlightened views if he chooses to run for president. But he and other like him could make a difference in political outcomes if they put aside their ambitions and fight as hard as they can for what they believe in. Who knows, it may be the path to the Whitehouse.
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