Qaeda Operative in London Bomb Plot Escapes
' Senator Mark Pryor of Arkansas said the administration's "poor management" in Iraq "has created a rallying cry for international terrorists" and "diverted our focus, our military and more than $US300 billion . . . from the war on terrorism." Pryor said US ports, borders and chemical plants remain unsecured, emergency personnel lack critical resources and the military, including the National Guard, was stretched. "It's time for Washington to be tough and smart about the threats we face," he said. "Americans deserve real security, not just leaders who talk tough but fail to deliver." '[Quote from The Age but the URL seems to have changed so I referenced the original]
Not to mention poor management in Afghanistan. Is it really a good idea to allow $2.5 bn a year in opium and heroin production there? Why haven't Bin Laden and al-Zawahiri be caught? What is this about a "resurgence" of the Taliban? Would that have been possible if Bush hadn't run off to Iraq? And, why are the big threats to the US there people like Gulbuddin Hekmatyar and Usama Bin Laden, allies of the Reagan administration in fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan in the 1980s? The ways in which harebrained US schemes and use of rogue Muslim radical proxies back in the Cold War contributed to the current crisis are constantly forgotten. So too is Bush's virtual abandonment of Afhganistan as soon as he conquered it, in favor of his pet project of regime change in Iraq. Bush managed to establish al-Qaeda in Iraq,as a popular political party when back in the 1990s Baathist secular Arab nationalism had checked it in that country.
Dawn reports although Pakistan provided a clue that was important to putting the group in the UK under surveillance a year ago, recent UK-Pakistan cooperation was key as well. Britain alerted Pakistani authorities to the importance of Rashid Rauf, who holds both British and Pakistani citizenship but has recently been resident in Pakistan and is the father of one of the 23 plotters arrested by the British.
Pakistani sources say that when, fairly recently, Pakistan took Rauf into custody, he confessed to the details of the plot, especially the plan to mix liquid explosives on board.
But the British official narrative that is emerging says that the Pakistani arrest of Rauf was carried out by mistake or on unrelated grounds, and that it forced Scotland Yard to go ahead and arrest 24 members of the cell in London lest Rashid's arrest cause them to scatter.
Rauf was arrested briefly last summer in the UK under suspicion of being linked to the 7/7 subway bombings. When he moved back to Pakistan, MI5 alerted Pakistani authorities, who kept him under surveillance. Dawn adds:
' The links of the arrested suspect could not be confirmed, but the sources said intelligence agencies had put four Islamic organisations on the watch list, they included two UK-based outfits Al Mahajroon and Hizbul Tehrir, and two Pakistani organisations Lashkar-i-Taiba and Lashkar-i-Jhangvi. '
The News (Pakistan) says that Rauf himself traveled to Afghanistan and had links there. It also provides further details about arrests in Pakistan.
The LA Times reports that the head of al-Qaeda in Pakistan, Muti'ur Rahman (wanted for trying to assassinate the Pakistani president and prime minister) was linked to the cells that were planning to use liquid bombs to bring down 10 US passenger planes.
Muti'ur Rahman is one of 5 plotters who escaped the UK police dragnet, and is now a very wanted man.
The 40 persons arrested in Italy presumably had been in email or telephone contact with the plotters, or had affiliations to banned terror groups such at Lashkar-i Tayyibah.

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"The 40 persons arrested in Italy presumably had been in email or telephone contact with the plotters, or had affiliations to banned terror groups such at Lashkar-i Tayyibah."
Not necessarily. The operation consisted of a big dragnet search of dozens of call centers, money transfer points etc. and according to the Italian press, of the 40 persons arrested 28 were charged with "offences against residence regulations" i.e. lack of residence permit, visa overstaying etc. and the other 12 with "offences against property law" which usually means theft or receiving stolen goods. So big press grandstanding - but sounds a lot more like smoke than fire?
Bliar's liquid bomb
Let us remind that it is "liquid explosives" part of the recent terrorist alert which is the most important because of its huge economic and political impact. So, here are some basic questions on the "liquid explosives" theory.
-- Where is the physical evidence that plotters actually had ready liquid explosive devices? Remember that all IWMD stories always break down when it comes to showing physical Iraqi chemical shells.
-- Where is the history of terrorist acts committed using liquid explosives? I still don't see any in the news. However, this situation is also familiar from terrorist WMD hype. Here as well there is no history of nuclear and bacteriological terrorism (besides badly smelling anthrax hype after 9-11) and only minimal history of chemical terrorism in Japan.
-- Where is the evidence that plotters found the robust way to use these explosives? This does not look simple.
-- Where is the consistent model of the effective liquid bomb? The more it goes, the less clarity I see on this subject in the news.
Recent article on the Royal Society of Chemistry site rsc.org does not say directly that is all black PR. But, in the end, it is pretty clear that experts just do their best to be as polite as possible and not to use the word "Bliar" yet again.
It is confirmed that terrorist usage of well known liquid explosive nitroglycerine does not look plausible because of its instability. As for binary chemical explosives that work by mixing, again, they are only theoretically workable, there is no sound engineering background for this version. Also, not surprisingly for those familiar with liquid rocket fuel technology, components involved are highly corrosive, unstable and, unlike solids, unsafe for everyday usage.
Bea Perks, Katharine Sanderson. Terror plot sparks frenzied speculation about liquid explosives
Widespread speculation on the chemistry of liquid explosives, following news of a terrorist plot to blow up transatlantic flights from the UK, must be treated with caution, warn leading chemists.
Wildly differing media reports suggest that nitroglycerine, a liquid explosive, could be smuggled onto a plane, while others prefer the idea that terrorists were planning to make the solid explosive triacetone triperoxide, (TATP) from liquid ingredients, in aircraft toilets.
'The measures that are in place are appropriate,' said Sean Doyle, head of chemistry and research at the forensic explosives laboratory of the Defence Science and Technology Laboratory (DSTL), Fort Halstead, UK.
...the identity of the alleged explosive liquid is far from clear.
Mixing two liquids into an explosive combination is possible – a company in the US markets a two-liquid system for blasting rock, based on hydrazine and concentrated nitric acid.
Wyatt said that while various combinations of fuels and oxidisers could be used to produce an explosive, preparing them is an extremely delicate process. One of the best known combinations is nitric acid and nitrobenzene: 'but to suggest that someone’s going to walk on to an aircraft and mix these two together to get an explosive liquid is, to put it bluntly, nonsense.'
Peter Fielden of the University of Manchester, UK, who works on explosives detection with DSTL, agreed that it would be tricky to make TATP on an aeroplane, and said he was concerned about the media attention the explosives were receiving. 'There's an awful lot of unknowns and a great deal of speculation,' he said.
The idea that this conflict between the western powers and the so called terrorism pundits is unsolvable and only force has to be used is fundamentally flowed. The same people that shook hands with American or British officials in the past be it Mr. Osama Bin La-Deen or Mr. Saddam Hussein are capable of doing the same and being encouraged to do the same again with more peaceful means. to consider war as an option all the time is a draining and very selfless thing to do, it is very unfair for the public that are been ruled in the west by fear or the easterners who are ruled by dictatorships and bombs made in the continental U.S.A and used by whom ever gets their hands on them viciously as the case in Iraq and Lebanon and Afghanistan and also Chechnya. What the westerns are so blind to see in my humble opinion is the fact that people of this region are capable for centuries to TAKE CARE of their affairs if, and only if the powers of the new money crusaders had left them alone.
"But the British official narrative that is emerging says that the Pakistani arrest of Rauf was carried out by mistake or on unrelated grounds, and that it forced Scotland Yard to go ahead and arrest 24 members of the cell in London lest Rashid's arrest cause them to scatter."
Two comments:
1) www.waynemadsenreports.com alleges the plot disclosure occurred at this time to take the heat off of the Poodle, aka Tony Blair.
2) If true, the economic cost of the abject failures associated with the War on Terror rise at the same time the potential for actual catastrophe rises.
If not true, well then the economic cost of the abject failures.......
Our main vulnerability is economic. As a nation, we could weather the consequences of almost anything a terrorist organization could do to us, but the economic cost of preventing any damage hurts us more.
When oil is 200 USD a barrel, but only 75 EU, you will understand what I mean.
The US is not Israel. We are not a sliver of a nation and we do not stand a chance of being pushed into the sea. Our nation was founded on sound principles, mostly, and we can resolve any internal social issue without undermining our basis for existence. The opposite, actually. Resolving internal issues strengthens our basis.
Why then do we allow our internal enemies (neo-cons) to make us as vulnerable as Israel?
YEAH, but I don't know if we can be CERTAIN that this was planned by Al Qaeda Central, because we ALL WANT TO BELIEVE that the war on terror is going well, and George W. Bush says it is.
Scotland Yard had hoped to carry out the raids in one or two weeks' time.
According to Whitehall sources, the operation had to be brought forward at the last minute, however, because of the activities of intelligence agencies in the U.S. Intelligence about the impending terror swoop was passed to authorities in America - believed to be the CIA and FBI - a number of weeks ago. They were asked to sit on the information until arrests were made in England.
But the Americans are said to have gone 'pro-active' - potentially alerting associates of the UK suspects.
A Whitehall source said: "Scotland Yard was effectively bounced into these arrests by the Americans."
From the Daily Mail
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=399880&in_page_id=1770&in_a_source=&ct=5
Daily Mail
"Why haven't Bin Laden and al-Zawahiri be caught? What is this about a "resurgence" of the Taliban? Would that have been possible if Bush hadn't run off to Iraq?"
Ron Suskind's book "The 1% doctrine" is useful for tracing the conflict since 9/11 between those favoring a hard investigative approach to terrorism (presumably like Tenet his primary source) and the Cheney-Rumsfeld-Rice neocons who are commited to a free floating geostrategic "War on Terror." Like Chomsky in "Outlaw States" Suskind's story is one where the victorious "Terror War" faction is less interested in actually capturing real terrorists than in fomenting terror for its own political ends. As Juan points up the Brits having been previously burned in 2004, may well have finally caught on to this and are keeping the US at arms length.
Mixing two liquids into an explosive combination is possible – a company in the US markets a two-liquid system for blasting rock, based on hydrazine and concentrated nitric acid.
Hydrazine/nitric acid has been used as a rocket fuel, and is hypergolic - i.e. it ignites immediately on contact. So that's plausible.
Ignoring the fact, though, that hydrazine and nitric acid are both highly toxic, corrosive, and hardly something you could transport in a regular plastic shampoo bottle, for example.
Juan,
I'm not sure the US has the ability to stop the opium growers. That's the whole problem.
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