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Juan Cole is President of the Global Americana Institute

Friday, January 04, 2008

Iraq, the Youth Vote, Women and Iowa

The conventional wisdom among the inside the beltway pundits is that Iraq is no longer a leading issue for American voters.

This conventional wisdom is demonstrably untrue. First, some December polls (scroll down) show that it was the most important issue for 25% of likely voters, with other issues trailing substantially.

In part it derives from conceptual confusion. In some polls, Iraq is no longer the single issue for voters that outweighs all others in importance. But it is still one of three major issues that come at the top of voter concern, sometimes tied with health care or education or the economy. That it is tied with health care does not mean it isn't important to voters. It means it is just as important to them as the health of themselves and their loved ones, which is to say, it is very important.

Let us take likely Democratic Primary voters in New Hampshire. As of mid-December, this is what Rasmussen found:


Eighty percent (80%) of Likely Democratic Primary Voters in New Hampshire say that Health Care is a Very Important voting issue. Seventy-five percent (75%) say the same about the economy, 71% attach the same importance to Government Ethics and Corruptions, and 70% say Iraq is a Very Important voting issue.


Likewise, Marist College Institute for Public Opinion poll found in early December that:

' The war in Iraq, health care, and the economy continue to outpace other concerns in the minds of likely New Hampshire Democratic Presidential Primary voters. 26% of likely voters cite the war in Iraq as the most important issue followed by 22% who are concerned about health care and 17% who mention the economy. Among likely voters who see the war in Iraq as the top issue in this election, Hillary Clinton runs neck and neck with Barack Obama. Clinton draws considerable support from likely voters concerned about health care and the economy. '


Further, Iraq is more important for some voters than for others.

New Hampshire women voters, for instance, are very concerned about Iraq:

'On some issues, there is a notable distinction between New Hampshire women and women in the rest of the country. Iraq and health care are hotter issues in New Hampshire and education and the economy are somewhat lower priorities. '


Or let's take the youth vote. A poll released Dec. 5 by Harvard's Institute of Policy, based on a big weighted sample of over 2500 likely voters aged 18-24, showed that:

' . . . Iraq and the War in general is still the top national concern of America’s youth today (37%) . . . [but] nearly one in ten young people (9%) say that healthcare is the “national issue” that concerns them most – more than double the number seen in March 2007 IOP polling (4%). In addition, twice as many young people today favor a universal healthcare system (50%) than those who favor the current system (25%). '


Admittedly, youth are more concerned with Iraq than the general public, and Democrats are more concerned with it than Republicans. But 37% of young likely voters saying it is their number one issue is huge.

The conventional wisdom about the decline in relevance of Iraq is even more untrue for Iowans and for the specific sorts of Iowans who voted in the Democratic primary. What is distinctive about the Iowa primary is that Barack Obama got out the youth vote. As many persons under 30 showed up as senior citizens. That trend is new, since mostly voters had until recently been disproportionately older, whiter and wealthier than the general public. But young voters 18-29 are increasingly turning out to vote in larger numbers. And, they favor the Democratic Party 44% to 23% for Republicans. The youth deeply dislike George W. Bush and his policies, and they deeply dislike the evangelical sort of culture issues, since they just can't get excited about gay marriage and abortion being allegedly dangers to the American way of life.

Since so many young people showed up, and since Iraq is more important as a concern to them (they and their friends are the ones dying or in danger of being drafted if things go bad), it would be foolhardy to discount Iraq as an issue.

And what we see is that the candidate who did not vote for the Iraq War, who vocally opposed it from the beginning, beat the two other front runners who had voted for the war--even if they have now turned against it. The youth vote for Obama can't be explained by his superior policies on universal health care, at least as economist Paul Krugman reads the plans. Of course, opposition to the Iraq War is for younger voters part of a package. They see Obama as the candidate of change, and they want change. Change with regard to Iraq is however for over a third of them the key specific change that they want.

My own conclusion is that Clinton's record of having voted for the Iraq War and her vote on the Kyl-Lieberman resolution calling for the designation of an element of the Iranian military a 'terrorist organization' hurt her very deeply. It may well be that the Obama campaign's charge stuck to her, that Benazir Bhutto's death and instability in Pakistan came about because the US squandered its resources on an Iraq War, which Clinton initially voted for.

This exchange at a town meeting, reported by the NYT, seems to me decisive:

' At a town hall meeting in a middle school gym here, Ms. Dennett first hailed Mrs. Clinton’s health care reform effort in 1993-94 . . . My concern is your voting record on war,” Ms. Dennett said. “The friends I talk to, to get them on board, they don’t trust you because of your voting issue on war.” She added that she and her friends did not want Mrs. Clinton to be “a war president.” '


Nobody wants any more "war presidents," but most of all Iowan Democrats and independents.

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12 Comments:

At 11:56 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Am I wrong? Wasn't Hillary Clinton supposed to automatically get the top job by some devine decree?

Am I wrong? Wasn't the monarchy of the Bush/Clinton family a done-deal?

 
At 4:06 PM, Blogger Todd Dugdale said...

Iraq is still important, but people realise that we are going to be there for the remainder of Bush's term and there's nothing that can be done about it. National polls also show that the majority of Americans feel it was a mistake to go into Iraq in the first place, and there is very little support for the idea of staying "for as long as it takes".

 
At 8:30 PM, Blogger karlof1 said...

Since Edwards has said he will withdrawl the vast majority of troops before the end of his first year in office and the framers of the "conventional wisdom" certainly know Iraq is the #1 issue as you prove, I think the M$M is trying to diffuse the strongest point of the candidate it loaths--Edwards--because of his anti-corporate/economic class-based populist rhetoric and ideas. People want us out of Iraq, but Obama and Clinton want to stay there a la Bush/Cheney; that is a losing position.

 
At 9:45 PM, Blogger McCutchen said...

Selected pesky facts from the Entrance Poll

* Obama beat Clinton among women 35% to 30%
* Obama beat Edwards among voters in union households 30%-24%
* Obama beat Clinton and Edwards among voters of almost every income level (Obama and Clinton tied among voters who make $15-30,000)
* As many voters age 17-29 as voters 65 and older participated last night -- in previous years senior participation has been 5-times greater than younger voters.
* Obama beat Edwards and Clinton among voters who want change (51%-20%-19%)
* Despite countless attacks and hundreds of thousands of dollars in negative mail, TV, and radio, Obama beat Clinton and Edwards (34%-30%-27%) among voters who say health care is the most important issue
* Obama won among those who said the economy was the most important issue (36%-26%-26%)
* Obama won over Clinton and Edwards (35%-26%-17%) among those who said Iraq was the most important issue
* Won across the ideological spectrum – winning among liberals, moderates and conservatives
* Won among high income and lower income voters among voters with household income below $50,000 (34%-32%-19%) and among those over $50,000 (41%-19%-28%)
* Also won among the 82% of voters who said Pakistan was “very or somewhat important”

 
At 10:51 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Those stodgey old Beltway pundits at least do not offer us political analysis in which the militant Republican Party has somehow been annihilated by magic. If some educationist has actually established that the bad hats could not possibly win in November 2008 and carry on with Mr. Bush's aggressions and occupations in much the same spirit as hitherto, I missed the proof.

Since I provisionally have to assume that the GOP will still be around and might well retain the Executive, the closest thing to a silver lining in Iowa has got to be on the other side of the aisle, namely that Gov. Huckabee does not seem especially gung-ho about aggressions and occupations. The Elmer Gantry stuff he is gung-ho about does not appeal much more, yet it is a good deal less likely to be imposed upon foreigners.

Yours faithfully,
-- Gloomy Gus

 
At 11:25 PM, Blogger ronaldo said...

Re Obama's Iowa win...It's one thing to win the nomination, beating the Diebold votring machines is the big hurdle!

 
At 1:46 AM, Anonymous John Francis Lee said...

There are three anti-war candidates : Gravel, Kucinich, and Paul. Paul looks the strongest.

Stan Goff has an interesting idea. Drop everything, register Republican, and vote Ron Paul in the primaries.

That seems like a sane strategy to me.

I am personally still planning on voting for Mike Gravel in the TX primary on March 4.

 
At 3:18 AM, Anonymous PFT said...

This is Iowa man, Iowa, and considering the small number of votes cast for Democrats, the result is statistically meaningless forf the top 3. The powers that be have determined a Democrat will be the next President, and Hillary will most likely be either the President or the VP (that will keep Edwards or Obama honest).

One thing that gives me pause for thought was her speech seemed very apathetic. Maybe a bad day or she may have been informed the powers that be have determined she should be at most the VP. The appearances of a Bush-Clinton dynasty have been recognized by many, and these guys want to keep the illusion of a 2 party system to be maintained.

The internet is a useful tool for them to take the peoples temperature, and plans get modified as needed.

And if the people do not go along with what they decide, despite their MSM schills cooperation, and biased polls, they bring out a 3rd party candidate, or rig the votes in swing states, or as a last resort they revert to the 1968 and 1963 tactics.

 
At 5:12 AM, Anonymous Duck Soup said...

We want change. We want change. We want change. No more Bush/Clinton/Bush/Clinton spin cycle. Obama has exercised superior, unique judgment among all the frontrunners in not supporting our frolic and detour in Iraq from the start. He alone can unify our country. United we stand. Divided we fall. No unity, no change.

More on why Obama is the only candidate who can unify America to achieve real change: http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/1/2/22840/86271/686/429523

 
At 6:57 AM, Anonymous Castellio said...

Have any of the presidential candidates from either party acknowledged Israel's nuclear weapons?

What does that tell us?

http://www.washingtonstakeout.com/index.php/2007/02/25/edwards-middle-east-policy-doesnt-acknowledge-israeli-nukes/

 
At 12:12 PM, Blogger PhysicistDave said...

I recently followed Stan Goff’s advice, and, although I was registered Democratic in ’04 and (of course) voted for Howard Dean, I will this year vote for Ron Paul. Unfortunately, Kucinich seems to have thrown in the towel – as Goff says, Ron Paul seems to be the only way to cast an antiwar vote.

Obama may be better than Clinton, although he has made some extremely belligerent statements about Iran. And, two years ago (November 2005), Obama declared, "After the December 15 elections and during the course of next year, we need to focus our attention on how to reduce the U.S. military footprint in Iraq. Notice that I say 'reduce,' and not 'fully withdraw.’ [snip] Second, we need not a time-table, in the sense of a precise date for U.S. troop pull-outs, but a time-frame for such a phased withdrawal." (http://obama.senate.gov/speech/051122-moving_forward/ )

Does Obama still think we need to “reduce" and not "fully withdraw" our military from Iraq? Does he still favor not a “precise date” for pull-out but an indeterminate “phased withdrawal”?

I doubt anyone can be sure. But I have this sinking feeling that “troops” can be relabeled as “advisors,” “trainers,” "peacekeepers,” etc. so as to leave tens of thousands of US military personnel in Iraq throughout an Obama administration.

I’m old enough to remember Vietnam. When I hear phrases like “I say 'reduce,' and not 'fully withdraw’” and not “a precise date for U.S. troop pull-outs, but a time-frame for such a phased withdrawal," I remember hearing sweet nothings from Richard Nixon and Lyndon Johnson.

Is there any indication that Obama has changed his mind and truly wants the US out of Iraq?

Dave M. in Sacramento

 
At 8:41 PM, Anonymous Davol said...

What seems glairing to me and probably millions of other Americans is that none of these other issues will get anywhere as long as this war crime continues to bleed the treasury, and reward bloated no-bid contracts to do-nothings who undermine the Army's mission. Not healthcare, not the economy, not infrastructure, or even huricane relief. If these issues mean anything to anybody then they should make stopping this war crime the #1 issue. The best we can do with this war is maybe get another tax cut, and I long for the days when "conventenal wisdom" saw taxcuts during wartime for the treason that they are.

 

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