Glenn Greenwald: Growing Backlash Against NSA Spying Shows Why U.S. Wants to Silence Edward Snowden

In an epic boxing match, we have in one corner 600 pound gorillas like Rep. Mike Rogers (R-MI), head of the House Intelligence Committee that is determined to abet spying on you in your bedroom, and in the other corner we have 98 pound weaklings like Edward Snowden and Glenn Greenwald, who are without Rogers’s power base among the Midwest 1% or his political reach. Snowden is holed up in transit lounge in Moscow, and Greenwald, a journalist for The Guardian, has been vilified by the lackey corporate press corps. And yet, Snowden and Greenwald are getting in some left hooks and right crosses, and haven’t just fainted because Rogers called them traitors, echoing his ideological ancestor, Joe McCarthy (R-WI).

Democracy Now! reports:

Blurb for the show:

‘As Congress holds its second major public hearing on the National Security Agency’s bulk spying, we speak with Glenn Greenwald, the Guardian journalist who first published whistleblower Edward Snowden’s revelations. The NSA admitted their analysis of phone records and online behavior far exceeded what it had previously disclosed. “The fact that you now see members of both political parties increasingly angry over the fact that they were misled and lied to by top-level Obama administration officials, that the laws that they enacted in the wake of 9/11 — as broad as they were — are being incredibly distorted by secret legal interpretations approved by secret courts, really indicates exactly that Snowden’s motives to come forward with these revelations, at the expense of his liberty and even his life, were valid and compelling,” Greenwald says. “If you think about whistleblowing in terms of people who expose things the government is hiding that they shouldn’t be, in order to bring about reform, I think what you’re seeing is the fruits of classic whistleblowing.”‘

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  1. Mike Rogers is a former FBI special agent who is currently considering a run at the United States Senate to fill the vacancy created by Senator Carl Levin – the former public defender attorney from Detroit who is a liberal and a supporter of the civil rights movement.

    Rogers is one of the most conservative members of the U.S. House and hails from rural Michigan which is overwhelmingly conservative in a political sense.

    Rogers is trying to bulid publicity for a U.S. Senate bid.

    • Michigan is a purple state; in presidential elections it has been blue for a long time, but GOP often does well at level of state legislature and switches off with Dems on governorship. As usual, the urban areas (including a lot of relatively small towns) are mostly blue, though the West of the state is GOP even on a city basis.

      • Pamela Byrnes, formerly a state representative from Ann Arbor currently working for the University of Michigan in China, has just announced her candidacy as a Democrat against conservative U.S. Congressman Tim Walberg.

        Per her LinkedIn page, she served as an intelligence analyst for the National Security Agency from 1969 through 1974. Her page was just amended to reflect her Congressional candidacy.

        Byrnes is viewed as a moderate Democrat and enjoyed the support of many GOP activists when she ran for a state senate seat in Michigan in 2010 but lost.

  2. Should read: “The fact that you now see members of both political parties increasingly angry over the fact that they were misled had plausible deniability and lied to by took the word of top-level Obama administration officials with a wink and a nod, that the laws that they enacted in the wake of 9/11 — as broad as they were — are being incredibly distorted by secret legal interpretations approved by secret courts,….

  3. People know the truth when they hear it. Even if Edward Snowde is forced to return to the US – and I certainly hope this does not happen – the djinn is out of the bottle and there’s no putting it back in.

  4. link to

    “John C Inglis, the deputy director of the surveillance agency, told a member of the House judiciary committee that NSA analysts can perform “a second or third hop query” through its collections of telephone data and internet records in order to find connections to terrorist organizations…..”Hops” refers to a technical term indicating connections between people. A three-hop query means that the NSA can look at data not only from a suspected terrorist, but from everyone that suspect communicated with, and then from everyone those people communicated with, and then from everyone all of those people communicated with.”

    “Three hops” really means four if you count them in Inglis’ statement. If you recall the theory of six degrees of separation, three hops is more than halfway to everyone single American. But that “three hop” process is only one inquiry. If one then picks three random people (not to mention 3 x 10 to the third, fourth, of fifth), investigates them, and correlates the contacts, the number of people investigated is virtually 100%, except for perhaps cave dwellers and hermits. “Sweep it all up” Rumsfeld said, intending to find a justification stream for for pro-war PR. Total Surveillance is a very exact phrase.

    Surveillance growth apologists and participants delude themselves to believe that THEY will never be targets of the system, or will never run afoul of someone who would like them targeted by the system for revenge, advantage, or profit, all three of which are rampant in all governments. But once out of the system, participants– no longer insiders–frequently and understandably are paranoid.
    Total Surveillance is not about terrorists, not any more, if it ever was. It is about population control which current unsustainable government policies are ensuring will be necessary when the house of cards labeled Economy, Energy, Manufacturing, Military Overreach, Debt, Education, Health, Environment, Oversight, Technology, Food, Justice, and so on finally collapses.

    It is time to ask whether the American security state is more important than the American people, because Americans are its target. It is time to ask whether the American security state is really a cancer, and if so whether the patient has any remaining ability to cure himself. With outsourced corporate security analysis now a norm, expanding secrecy preventing just oversight, and a Congress either inept or obstructionist, who will in the future get jobs, education, help, and funding, or electronic minders, targeting, and harm will increasingly and secretly be dictated by revenge, advantage, and profit, the common elements whose strengths in our system remain strong.

  5. Meanwhile, Barack Obama is so hellbent on persecuting (and I think that’s the right word) Edward Snowden that he’s now threatening to cancel a planned September Moscow visit.

  6. A secret court approved a secret legal opinion!!!

    That is not a court . A court must put on notice affected parties. Also affected parties have wright to legal representation.

    The secret court judges are not judges. They are paid criminal lackeys. They should be prosecuted for treason along with Obama , clapper et al

  7. The Patriot Act, voted on by our duly-elected representatives, allows for all of what has happened. I don’t like the Patriot Act and think much of it is overreaching and just plain wrong for America. Nevertheless, in my opinion Mr Snowden has committed treason. If he really believed that what he has done is the right thing to do, he would also be ready to face the full consequences of his act for the good of the cause. Of course he will now be used as a bargaining chip between nations.

  8. The MSM is so full of shit; they can’t even do honest reportage.
    I don’t even call it garbage any longer; garbage has value; what they waste electrons on doesn’t have any value; so, I call it grabage, because that’s what it is, and what it’s worth is, nothing!

  9. My concern is that this spying has gone on so long that it’s irreversible. I and my family are, like Snowden, not willing to live under a totalitarian security state. No matter the difficulties we may cause ourselves and the comforts we may lose we’re leaving.

    Good luck with this and let us know it all works out for you.


    • You’ll be fine. Once out, you’ll look back and ask yourself why it took so long.
      I’m over a decade gone. Bush invading Iraq did it for me.

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