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  1. Not really a “plus ca change” situation. In the case of the RCC, they cared about the poor. In this situation, it is the poor that have gathered in the streets, and the more “western”, i.e. less poor, are hiding behind the military.
    I usually really admire your analysis, but I have to say that I find your position on Egypt really surprising — especially coming from someone who is as well informed as yourself.

      • I realize that there are some leading MBers who are quite wealthy, but all you have to do is look at the different groups and there is no question that the group in Kairat Shater represent a higher level of poverty. I have cousins in the Meidan al-Tahrir. They would like to see the pro-Morsi people annihilated. They see the Khairat Shater people excatly like they view their servants.

        Are you claiming that the 50% living on less then $2 a day support the military and the police? Half of the message of the January revolution was to regain “dignity”. This was due to the repression and bullying of the police state against the poor. You could see it virtually on a daily basis. You also seem to forget that 70% of Egyptians are illiterate. These are the people who were more represented by the Muslim Brotherhood than other sectors of society.
        Don’t get me wrong, I don’t like the MB. But the real issue is whether one respects elections or not. If you respect elections, and if the electorate is poor and ignorant and have been led by the nose to elect the MB, then what do you? You either work towards garnering support for your position at the next election or force the current leaders out. In my opinion, you don’t have a coup, you don’t kill 300 people, you don’t call on Israel to send drones to the Sinai (in the news today), and you don’t threaten to slaughter thousands of people who are demonstrating peacefully.

        • One more point, if you will bear with me. Let me turn the position around. Are you claiming that the military cares about the poor? They have been in power for many years and they set up the police state that bullys the poor on a daily basis. To compare Nasser and his group, with their socialist platform, with a bunch of generals who own up to 40% of the economy is not a defensible position.

        • you have old statistics. 18% live on $2 a day.

          But in any, case, Morsi didn’t buy enough wheat & he caused a 15% fall in the value of the Egyptian pound, and caused the price of bread & diesel to rise substantially. The poor came to hate him. The textile unions & the whole town of al-Mahalla fervently supported Rebellion / Tamarrud. Likewise many rural depot towns.

          Brotherhood leadership long since became bourgeois. They screwed the working class, which is one reason they are out.

          Contrary to what you seem to think, though, I always held the coup a very dangerous idea.

  2. So that is how Egypt came to be occupied by its own military, by the will of the people.

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