'why do you assume it must be the U.S. Government behind it? That is, unless you harbor an irrational sense that only the U.S. Government is capable of such atrocities.'
one has to conclude that you never read any books about the cia involvement abroad. please do. as a starter read tim weiner's legacy of ashes. or william blum's killing hope, and rogue state.
the us government is capable of committing atrocities on a huge scale as even mcnamara admitted in his book 'in retrospect' when he wrote that the american governments have 'inflicted terrible suffering' in south east asia, because 'we underestimated the power of nationalism to motivate a people to fight and die for their beliefs and values -- and we continue to do so today in many parts of the world.'
as a journalist i saw in 1995 how the american led destruction of iraq and the sanctions which killed at least half a million children under 5 years old resulted in atrocities too great to comprehend. i saw in baghdad children dying of cancer as a result of the massive use of depleted uranium weapons. and because of the sanctions they also had to die without medicines or enough painkillers.
'Lesley Stahl on U.S. sanctions against Iraq: We have heard that a half million children have died. I mean, that's more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?
Secretary of State Madeleine Albright: I think this is a very hard choice, but the price--we think the price is worth it.'
it is remarkable that the americans after 9/11 asked themselves: 'why do they hate us so much.' blowback, the cia calls it. read the work of chalmers johnson.
most of the americans who are now in iraq, to be precise, because that is the subject. what would be the mission of americans in iraq at this moment? to protect the democracy? to take care that human rights are not violated? to build up the iraqi infra structure? elliot, the illegal american invasion, which was in fact a war of aggression, was all about oil, as mr. greenspan and mr. bolton have admitted. ask yourself: why are the americans still in iraq? to spy, elliot, to take care that the western oil interests are protected.
This is what kissinger had to say not long before the american organized cia-coup in which the democratically chosen president allende was killed:
"I don't see why we have to let a country go Marxist just because its people are irresponsible."
it is not the american people who commit these crimes, it is their intelligence agencies, like the cia, who are committing it. only american crooks are in iraq now, not decent people.
i quote: 'some people believe the ministries are rife with CIA agents .' i gather that the author is not one of the 'some people'. well, be assured elliott, some people are right when they assume that even most of the americans are in one way or another, knowingly or unknowingly connected to the cia, or one of the numerous other american intelligence organisations, c.q. death squads. read the the books about these organisations and you will know.
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bill,
i quote:
'why do you assume it must be the U.S. Government behind it? That is, unless you harbor an irrational sense that only the U.S. Government is capable of such atrocities.'
one has to conclude that you never read any books about the cia involvement abroad. please do. as a starter read tim weiner's legacy of ashes. or william blum's killing hope, and rogue state.
the us government is capable of committing atrocities on a huge scale as even mcnamara admitted in his book 'in retrospect' when he wrote that the american governments have 'inflicted terrible suffering' in south east asia, because 'we underestimated the power of nationalism to motivate a people to fight and die for their beliefs and values -- and we continue to do so today in many parts of the world.'
as a journalist i saw in 1995 how the american led destruction of iraq and the sanctions which killed at least half a million children under 5 years old resulted in atrocities too great to comprehend. i saw in baghdad children dying of cancer as a result of the massive use of depleted uranium weapons. and because of the sanctions they also had to die without medicines or enough painkillers.
'Lesley Stahl on U.S. sanctions against Iraq: We have heard that a half million children have died. I mean, that's more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?
Secretary of State Madeleine Albright: I think this is a very hard choice, but the price--we think the price is worth it.'
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it is remarkable that the americans after 9/11 asked themselves: 'why do they hate us so much.' blowback, the cia calls it. read the work of chalmers johnson.
--60 Minutes (5/12/96)
most of the americans who are now in iraq, to be precise, because that is the subject. what would be the mission of americans in iraq at this moment? to protect the democracy? to take care that human rights are not violated? to build up the iraqi infra structure? elliot, the illegal american invasion, which was in fact a war of aggression, was all about oil, as mr. greenspan and mr. bolton have admitted. ask yourself: why are the americans still in iraq? to spy, elliot, to take care that the western oil interests are protected.
This is what kissinger had to say not long before the american organized cia-coup in which the democratically chosen president allende was killed:
"I don't see why we have to let a country go Marxist just because its people are irresponsible."
it is not the american people who commit these crimes, it is their intelligence agencies, like the cia, who are committing it. only american crooks are in iraq now, not decent people.
i quote: 'some people believe the ministries are rife with CIA agents .' i gather that the author is not one of the 'some people'. well, be assured elliott, some people are right when they assume that even most of the americans are in one way or another, knowingly or unknowingly connected to the cia, or one of the numerous other american intelligence organisations, c.q. death squads. read the the books about these organisations and you will know.