Arguing with Bush and Blair
The news conference of Bush and Blair on Thursday evening was unexpectedly dominated by Iraq.
I'm going to just pull out some passages worthy of comment, not in order.
In fact, the first is from the end:
'Q: Mr. President, you spoke about missteps and mistakes in Iraq. Could I ask both of you which missteps and mistakes of your own you most regret?
PRESIDENT BUSH: It sounds like kind of a familiar refrain here. (Scattered laughter.) Saying "Bring it on." Kind of tough talk, you know, that sent the wrong signal to people. That I learned some lessons about expressing myself maybe in a little more sophisticated manner. You know, "Wanted dead or alive," that kind of talk.
I think in certain parts of the world it was misinterpreted. And so I learned -- I learned from that.
And, you know, I think the biggest mistake that's happened so far, at least from our country's involvement in Iraq, is Abu Ghraib. We've been paying for that for a long period of time. And it's -- unlike Iraq, however, under Saddam, the people who committed those acts were brought to justice; they've been given a fair trial and tried and convicted. '
Well, first of all, it should be pointed out that only the very lowest level of perpetrator at Abu Ghraib has been punished. And not very much punished at that. The soldier who set snarling dogs on detainees got six months. As I remember, Iraqis were outraged. What would you get for selling a dime bag of pot? And Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence Stephen Cambone have not in any way been held accountable. Or General "My god is bigger than yours" Boykin, either.
The US media were saying that Bush apologized for his flip rhetoric. But look again. He did not. He said he had been "misinterpreted" in some parts of the world. (Which?) How do you misinterpret "bring it on?" And, why in the world is he apologizing for saying he wanted Bin Laden dead or alive? What has that got to do with Iraq, anyway?
The people who were angriest at Bush over the "bring it on" remark were the military and the families of the military. George Washington, who actually led his troops, might have been entitled to talk like that. Someone who spends most of his time in the White House gym isn't.
But if Bush was going to express any regrets, why is it over his faux cowboy rhetoric? Wouldn't his biggest regret be over 20,000 Americans killed or wounded in Iraq? Wouldn't it be over the 2400 plus fresh caskets in Arlington and other cemeteries around the country, the earth above them still bulging slightly from the newness of their perch, and the young men in wheel chairs or the ones who will eat with a straw from now on?
Here is another interesting bit:
BUSH: 'All I can report to you is what General Casey, in whom I have got a lot of confidence, tells me, and that is the Iraqis are becoming better and better fighters. And at some point in time, when he feels like the government is, you know, ready to take on more responsibility and the Iraqi forces are able to help them do so, he will get on the telephone with me and say, "Mr. President, I think we can do this with fewer troops."
We've been up to 165,000 at one point. We're at about 135,000 now.
Actually, he moved -- actually moved some additional troops from Kuwait into Baghdad. Conditions on the ground were such that we needed more support in Baghdad to secure Baghdad, so he informed me, through Donald Rumsfeld, that he wanted to move troops out of Kuwait into Baghdad. So these commanders, they need to have flexibility in order to achieve the objective. '
Bush is admitting that things are so bad militarily in Iraq that US control of the capital itself is in doubt, so that reinforcements have had to be brought quickly from Kuwait. He is telling us this as a reason fro which he won't set a timetable. But what it reveals is how bad the situation in Baghdad really is. And he is saying that no timetable under these circumstances would be worth the paper it was printed on. After all, if the US troops started leaving Baghdad and the guerrillas started taking over even more of it than they already have, could Bush afford to just let the capital fall?
BUSH: ' The prime minister met with key leaders of the new Iraqi government that represents the will of the Iraqi people and reflects their nation's diversity.'
The Sunni Arabs are about 20 percent of the population, more or less. The three self-identified Sunni Arab parties-- the Iraqi Accord Front, the National Dialogue Council, and the small Reform and Reconciliation Party, together have 58 seats in parliament, nearly 21 percent. There are 37 cabinet posts. 4 went to the main Sunni parties in parliament. That is about 11 percent of cabinet posts. And even if the Defense minister ends up being ethnically Sunni Arab, he is likely to be an unrepresentative technocrat, and that still only brings the total up to 13.5 percent.
This new government was supposed to be an opportunity to reach out to the Sunni Arabs. But some Sunni Arabs are so upset about being stiffed in their proportion of cabinet posts that 15 walked out when Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki presented his government to parliament. I saw Vice President Tariq al-Hashimi on Aljazeera this week insisting that the "Resistance" has a right to defend Iraq from foreign occupation or words to that effect, and urging that the US talk directly to the guerrilla leadership. Well, I guess that is a sign that the new Iraqi government is more representative. I'm not sure it is what Bush was going for.
Blair was just as bad, and more dangerous for being smoother. He once again tried to justify the invasion of Iraq with reference to a terrorist threat to Europe. But Iraq was not a significant source of terrorism in Europe before it was, like, invaded and occupied by the UK! And, he tried to argue that the UN is unwieldy and unworkable because it is too slow to deal with a fast-moving terror plot. But Blair's problem with the UN is not that it was slow. The UNSC quickly passed a resolution on Iraq when requested. It was that it would not go along with an illegal war of aggression.


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Is there any evidence that Iraq today is a source of terrorism in Europe or the US? While of course it is not the kind of sink for terrorism that Bush claimed in his 'bring it on' speech, it is not an exporter of terror, since guerillas there are concerned with fighting the occupation directly, not with craftily conducting terror activities behind enemy lines.
Bush: "And at some point in time, when he feels like the government is, you know, ready to take on more responsibility and the Iraqi forces are able to help them do so, he will get on the telephone with me and say, "Mr. President, I think we can do this with fewer troops."
Really? You dont say!
Sadly, the non-existent Iraqis have already told Blair to clear the deck before the end of this year.
The 18 months given by the Iraqi PM is not a time-table, it is a deadline. The American troops and, more importantly, the thousands of the Likudist civlians will be told to fuck off way before that. And the non-existent American public will say: gladly.
George W's "tough talk" mea culpa should have focused on his National Security Strategy (2002) which stated in effect that the US was the No. 1 world power militarily, economically and politically and that the US would take whatever steps were necessary to maintain these positions. This was like the children's game of King of the Hill where it turns out there is no permanent King of the Hill. "Tough talk." If George W is subdued, VP Cheney is not. Missteps? George W's were doozies.
The insurgency will also benefit from the experience of being forced to or explore more effective new strategies. The president seems to believe that once the Iraqi forces are minimally acceptable to "hold their own" without US handholding the situation will stabilize. But the insurgency is not standing still, it won7t run out of volunteers. It won't run out of supplies. I would guess the most severe limiting factor for the insurgents is training facilities and opportunities. I wouldn't be surprised if the goal for the US military becomes a relatively secure Baghdad, and that's it. I don't know how reasonable even that goal is.
"Unexpectedly dominated by Iraq"? I'd have been surprised if it hadn't come up, what with it being, you know, a Bush-Blair press conference.
More Iraq-Iran maneuvering
In a typical mind-boggling ME development, new Iraqi government supports the Iranian position on nuclear enrichment. Simulaneously, the Iranians blame the occupation forces for the Iraqi instability and reject the direct talks with the US.
From the other side, the Iraqis show full satisfaction with this because they don't trust Iran and the US to talk about Iraq behind their backs.
In this situation, Blair does not have much to say in response to this virtuoso diplomatic performance. It all comes to generic calls for unity in Iraq. So, with Iraqi war unraveling, empty abstract rhetoric becomes a mark for military pressure.
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OC Register Calls for Withdrawal
"If Not Now, When?"
A good question in light Juan's comments about the security situation in Baghdad. The longer the US delays withdrawal from Iraq, the longer the US delays even planning for it, the more likely it becomes that chaos will reign when, as will happen, we are forced out either by fatwa from Najaf or from Main St. USA. The more likely too, that no amount of planning will matter......
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it is incredible. this was such obvious stuff. the way we approach what we communicate to those in Iraq when we go in to liberate the country, and yet appear to the world that we are invading, pretty basic, and critical.
yet this part at least was so obvious. and ridiculously bothched.but these points were rountinely ignored by the media, ignored by conservatives, and
now the president is saying, as if he is learning the easiest things on the job.
and that learning has been slow, as this is one of the few tiimes that he has acknolwedged what have been obvious mistakes.
here's another enormous mistake of communication to the world, that is similarly basic, and far more extraordinary than the Iraq snafu, and it is being overlooked here in America
meanwhile, his adminstration constinues to advance an "interpretation" or the consitution that and federal power and oversight that is bizrre and in fact in complete conflict with the entire premise of that document in settig up a systemn of checks and balances, in favor of a program that was and is in flagrant violation of FISA and the constitution,
and has taken it several steps further, with more in common with the old soviet union, than America.
Funny was't it. It was funny to Blair and Bush; not funny to the rest of us. They behaved like two fraternity brothers recounting a date rather than a discussion of a subject that impacts families, individuals, and others. It was funny - the joke is on us, at our expense. Funny it is not; pathetic it is!
Shakespeare said:
"Fair is foul and foul is fair. Hover through the fog and filthy air."
I say:
"Bush and Blair. What a pair. I want to rend my clothes and pull my hair."
Talk about the mad dog and his Englishman out in the noonday sun!
At dailykos there's a picture of Bush at the news conference with Blair after his "contrite admission of errors" - the title of the discussion is "Look at his face - Bush thinks you're stupid." http://tinyurl.com/oktb2
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