Are we Already at War?
Have US-enabled Kurds killed 200 Iranian Troops?
I got the below by anonymous email regarding a German news program last month. Am passing it on not because I buy it or its details but because there is at the least an issue in the Kurdish terrorist groups that are operating from US-occupied Iraq against Iraq's neighbors. The US is not able to stop the PKK from operating against an ally, Turkey, so I don't think it could stop the Iranian Kurdish terrorists, PEJAK, from operating against Iran. But it is also probably true that there are elements in the US military, in the intelligence services, and in the Washington power elite that are connected to PEJAK and are either happy about its activities or subtly enabling them.
Since the US Senate has in its wisdom laid the groundwork for a war on Iran on the extremely thin grounds of an unbalanced and gullible NYT story, it is worth pondering the degree to which we are being spun once again by shadowy forces whose salaries we are paying!
| "Transcript of TV program on German ARD television, "The Monitor, no. 564, June 21, 2007: Sertan (a PJAK terrorist): "Three months ago, by using radio-controlled mines (IEDs) we killed 13 to 14 Iranian soldiers". Kurdish terrorists hide in the U.S. protected areas of North-Eastern Iraq. From there, they send fighters over the border into Iran and attack Iranians. In the past two years, they have killed over 200 Iranians." See the transcript of the program in German. . . . [*Update: A perceptive reader kindly translated the transcript into English at the Comments; I am appending it to the main message below.]* *** NOTE: You can use Google to translate these German Web Pages into English. [Then there is this from other press sources]: Pejak enjoying western support (PressTv, Iran, July 11, 2007): Head of Pejak (PJAK) terrorist group says he has good relations with the U.S. and German governments and they know everything about the group. Abdul Rahman Haji-Ahmadi who lives in Cologne, Germany told German ARD television network that he directs Pejak from Germany. "Big powers help our military stations and American army generals completely overlook our activities", he added. Haji-Ahmadi pointed out that some U.S. generals even visit Pejak's military camps and have good ties with Pejak. He noted that the presence of Pejak in Iraq is even useful for the U.S. because "if Pejak does not rule, Islam will rule". Haji-Ahmadi in a similar interview with the Kurdish newspaper Media had acknowledged that some U.S. senators and generals had met with Pejak leaders in Iraq's Qandil region. . . [Journalist Reese Erlich has also reported on all this for "Democracy Now" and "Mother Jones":] * Report: U.S. sponsoring Kurdish guerilla attacks inside Iran * Kurdish & American sources say the U.S. has been supporting guerrilla raids against Iran, channeling the money through organizations in Iraqi Kurdistan." |
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| (ARD report on The Monitor translated as a public service to prevent other family tragedies) Terrorism: How the Turkish Workers Party attracts recruits under the noses of the BND and Interior Police (Rough and Ready Translation) Sonia Mikich: Recruiting for the war. How a young man from a nice family was led astray – and to the battle in far way Iran. Incidentally as a consequence , we asked ourselves who practices these terrorist attacks on Iran from the ostensibly peaceful Northern Iraq. There is a secret war there unnoticed by the world and tolerated by the Americans. The clues led to Germany, to Cologne as Stephan Buchen and John Goetz found out. They met extremists who proselytize young people under the noses of our secret services, completely in the shadows. Langenfeld North Rhine- Westphalia The K family has lived here for 34 years. The parents feel happy and safe in Germany. However the major conflicts in the Middle East have intruded into their everyday life. Their son Sertan has been missing for the last eight months. Photographs from happy times. His mobile [phone] doesn’t answer anymore. He was a student at the higher vocational school in Leverkusen-Opladen. Today Sertan is 21 years old. The parents haven’t heard from their son for 8 months. We found the son in north eastern Iraq, near the Iranian border, in one of the most dangerous crisis zones in the world. In this mountain zone he is learning the trade of the Guerrilla. Sertan: We call the weapon Karnas. It is a sniper rifle for assassinations. I was specially trained for assassinations of great generals. Sertan belongs to an organization called PJAK, the party of a New Life in Kurdistan. Unnoticed by the rest of the world a war is happening here. The young recruits push into Iran and carry out attacks. Sertan: Especially with explosives, with mines. The mines are prepared …. So that we can detonate them from a distance by radio. They are being developed. We have trained specialists Bomb Experts. Three months ago the friends attacked and killed 13-14 soldiers of the Iranian Army. Your son a Terrorist. Ready to die for the Kurdish cause? The family learns form us where Sertan is. They are speechless. Mother (translation) I feel very bad I want my son to come back. I am upset. Sister of Sertan: He promised mother that he would stay here. He hasn’t kept his promise. Ideological indoctrination: We observe how Sertan and other recruits are made enthusiastic for the battle. The Commander preaches about the bullets of the guerrilla which will light up the darkness. He demands from the young men and women self-sacrifice, praises the picture of martyrs. Sertan the boy from Langenfeld takes copious notes. This is how he is brought on line so quickly. The high ideals of PJAK can be reached: Overthrow of the Iranian Government, Installation of democracy, and freedom for the Kurds in Iran The Kurdish guerrillas control a small strip in the north of the US Occupied Iraq. They send fighters across the border from here. They are believed to have killed at least 200 people in the last two years in attacks. PJAK a pseudonym, as the organization owes allegiance to Abdulla Ocalan the boss of the Kurdish Workers party PKK. It is proscribed in Europe and the US as a terrorist organization. Food rations is all Sertan gets for his work. His rise to fighter started in NRW. He was recruited there by PKK members he told us. He spent three months in a PKK camp in Belgium. Eventually he landed here with two young Kurds of German nationality. Sertan: More and more are coming from Germany. From Germany, from Norway, from Sweden we already had two or three new members. But especially from Germany and France Formal Parade of the recruits in front of the Boss of PJAk Address of Haji Ahmadi Boss of PJAK: I am very happy that you are ready for this holy battle says Haji Ahmadi. The Kurds provide an example of what it means to fight to the last man. Haji Ahmadi sees great times coming for his organization. It receives protection from the highest levels. American generals in Iraq look not unfavorably on his activities. They have visited his camp and walked together with respect. We have positive effects for the Americans. We have the whole mountain chain from Armenia and Azerbaijan under our control. If we weren’t here then the Islamists would take over. Reporter: You mean to say that essentially you are supported by the Americans. Haji: 100% Is that is why the flow of new fighters from Europe works so smoothly? Haji: Many Kurdish youths and girls are joining the fight from Europe. Many go to Northern Kurdistan and also to turkey Haji Ahmadi is always temporarily visiting his people in North Iraq. His main residence is Cologne NRW. He has a German passport he says. He makes contact from here with western politicians and intelligence services. Even the BND have visited him. Haji Ahmadi: He was a young man and said he was from the BND. He asked the same questions you are asking. Reporter: But that means that the German authorities know what you are doing, who you are and what your objectives are. Haji: They know exactly what I am doing I have been in Europe for 43 years mostly in Germany …… BND and Interior Police confirmed that they know PJAK and are watching them. Are young people being recruited for the war against Iran in Germany? We asked Representative Hans Christian Stroeble a member of the parliamentary intelligence oversight committee. He suspects that severe consequences might befall the authorities. Stroeble: If the suspicion exists of illegal activities and especially such extremely illegal activities as terrorist links to overseas or the recruiting of for a foreign power then the German Justice authorities are obliged to report and investigate the matter and see if enough evidence exists for charges. So far no sign of action by the Federal authorities. Setan’s family want their son back, but they are afraid that the PKK will do something to their son Seltan’s father: The PKK told me shouldn’t call the police. Sertan is well. We haven’t called the police because we thought that could put our son’s life in danger. The German authorities offer no help. To get his son back they have to trust the PKK. So far without result. |
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Lord Inge, the former chief of the defence staff, highlighted their fears in public last week when he warned of a 'strategic failure' in Afghanistan. The Observer understands that Inge was speaking with the direct authority of the general staff when he made an intervention in a House of Lords debate.
'The situation in Afghanistan is much worse than many people recognise,' Inge told peers. 'We need to face up to that issue, the consequence of strategic failure in Afghanistan and what that would mean for Nato... We need to recognise that the situation - in my view, and I have recently been in Afghanistan - is much, much more serious than people want to recognise.
Inge's remarks reflect the fears of serving generals that the government is so overwhelmed by Iraq that it is in danger of losing sight of the threat of failure in Afghanistan...
Ashdown told The Observer that Afghanistan presented a graver threat than Iraq.
'The consequences of failure in Afghanistan are far greater than in Iraq,' he said. 'If we fail in Afghanistan then Pakistan goes down. The security problems for Britain would be massively multiplied. I think you could not then stop a widening regional war that would start off in warlordism but it would become essentially a war in the end between Sunni and Shia right across the Middle East.'
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/foreignaffairs/story/0,,2126818,00.html
So Cheney admin wants to start a war with Iran also when Pakistan DOES have nuclear weapons which present grave danger if Pakastani government falls.
Has this administration gotten anything right?
DearProfessor Cole
Balanced reporting requires that we look at both points of view
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/13/AR2007071301709.html?hpid=opinionsbox1
and
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/columnists/columnists.html?in_article_id=468368&in_page_id=1772&in_author_id=464&in_check=N
One of these probably has a fair grasp of reality.
apparently the US Senate has already green-lighted the war on Iran.
Can the House stem the tide ?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/video/page/0,,2125978,00.html
go ahead and watch this video - makes one really proud to be an amerikan. is the gd Oil really worth it ?????
Well, both ARD an Monitor are well respected and usually very credible.
(translated as a public service to prevent other family tragedies)
Terrorism: How the Turkish Workers Party attracts recruits under the noses of the BND and Interior Police (Rough and Ready Translation)
Sonia Mikich: Recruiting for the war. How a young man from a nice family was led astray – and to the battle in far way Iran. Incidentally as a consequence , we asked ourselves who practices these terrorist attacks on Iran from the ostensibly peaceful Northern Iraq. There is a secret war there unnoticed by the world and tolerated by the Americans.
The clues led to Germany, to Cologne as Stephan Buchen and John Goetz found out. They met extremists who proselytize young people under the noses of our secret services, completely in the shadows.
Langenfeld North Rhine- Westphalia
The K family has lived here for 34 years. The parents feel happy and safe in Germany. However the major conflicts in the Middle East have intruded into their everyday life. Their son Sertan has been missing for the last eight months.
Photographs from happy times. His mobile doesn’t answer anymore. He was a student at the higher vocational school in Leverkusen-Opladen. Today Sertan is 21 years old. The parents haven’t heard from their son for 8 months.
We found the son in north eastern Iraq, near the Iranian border, in one of the most dangerous crisis zones in the world. In this mountain zone he is learning the trade of the Guerrilla.
Sertan: We call the weapon Karnas. It is a sniper rifle for assassinations. I was specially trained for assassinations of great generals.
Sertan belongs to an organization called PJAK, the party of a New Life in Kurdistan. Unnoticed by the rest of the world a war is happening here. The young recruits push into Iran and carry out attacks.
Sertan: Especially with explosives, with mines. The mines are prepared …. So that we can detonate them from a distance by radio. They are being developed. We have trained specialists Bomb Experts. Three months ago the friends attacked and killed 13-14 soldiers of the Iranian Army.
Your son a Terrorist. Ready to die for the Kurdish cause? The family learns form us where Sertan is. They are speechless.
Mother (translation) I feel very bad I want my son to come back. I am upset.
Sister of Sertan He promised mother that he would stay here. He hasn’t kept his promise.
Ideological indoctrination: We observe how Sertan and other recruits are made enthusiastic for the battle. The Commander preaches about the bullets of the guerilla which will light up the darkness. He demands from the young men and women self-sacrifice, praises the picture of martyrs. Sertan the boy from Langenfeld takes copious notes. This is how he is brought on line so quickly. The high ideals of PJAK can be reached: Overthrow of the Iranian Government, Installation of democracy, and freedom for the Kurds in Iran
The Kurdish guerrillas control a small strip in the north of the US Occupied Iraq. They send fighters across the border from here. They are believed to have killed at least 200 people in the last two years in attacks.
PJAK a pseudonym, as the organization owes allegiance to Abdulla Ocalan the boss of the Kurdish Workers party PKK. It is proscribed in Europe and the US as a terrorist organization.
Food rations is all Sertan gets for his work. His rise to fighter started in NRW. He was recruited there by PKK members he told us. He spent three months in a PKK camp in Belgium. Eventually he landed here with two young Kurds of German nationality.
Sertan More and more are coming from Germany. From Germany, from Norway, from Sweden we already had two or three new members. But especially from Germany and France
Formal Parade of the recruits in front of the Boss of PJAk
Address of Haji Ahmadi Boss of PJAK
I am very happy that you are ready for this holy battle says Haji Ahmadi. The Kurds provide an example of what it means to fight to the last man.
Haji Ahmadi sees great times coming for his organization. It receives protection from the highest levels. American generals in Iraq look not unfavorably on his activities. They have visited his camp and walked together with respect.
We have positive effects for the Americans. We have the whole mountain chain from Armenia and Azerbaijan under our control. If we weren’t here then the Islamsist would take over.
Reporter: you mean to say that essentially you are supported by the Americans.
Haji: 100%
Is that is why the flow of new fighters from Europe works so smoothly?
Haji: many Kurdish youths and girls are joining the fight from Europe. Many go to Northern Kurdistan and also to turkey
Haji Ahmadi is always temporarily visiting his people in North Iraq. His main residence is Cologne NRW. He has a German passport he says. He makes contact from here with western politicians and intelligence services. Even the BND have visited him.
Haji Ahmadi: He was a young man and said he was from the BND. He asked the same questions you are asking.
Reporter: But that means that the German authorities know what you are doing, who you are and what your objectives are.
Haji: They know exactly what I am doing I have been in Europe for 43 years mostly in Germany ……
BND and Interior Police confirmed that they know PJAK and are watching them. Are young people being recruited for the war against Iran in Germany? We asked Representative Hans Christian Stroeble a member of the parliamentary intelligence oversight committee. He suspects that severe consequences might befall the authorities.
Stroeble: If the suspicion exists of illegal activities and especially such extremely illegal activities as terrorist links to overseas or the recruiting of for a foreign power then the German Justice authorities are obliged to report and investigate the matter and see if enough evidence exists for charges.
So far no sign of action by the Federal authorities. Setan’s family want their son back, but they are afraid that the PKK will do something to their son
Seltan’s father: The PKK told me shouldn’t call the police. Sertan is well. We haven’t called the police because we thought that could put our son’s life in danger.
The German authorities offer no help. To get his son back they have to trust the PKK. So far without result.
There have been other reports in alternative news sources for some time, that Special Forces groups are operating against Iran. This would not suprise me. Cheney and the Neo-Cons have been obsessed with attacking Iran for years. Cheney and Bush have a symbiotic relationship. One feeds off the other. Condoleeza Rice has seemed to hold the line on an outright attack, but the operative words are: has seemed. I hold her abilities in no high esteem. Cheney has bulled his way through 6 years, thus far. He has gotten what he wanted and continues to go his own way, without any constraints from Bush. Just like those presidential pardons in the last days of office, Cheney feels he has nothing to lose, so why not do as he pleases?? Bush is like-minded. Public opinion means nothing to these men. World opinion means nothing. The coming election in 2008 means nothing to them. The Pinhead Republicans in Congress have noted this, but are so addicted to party loyalty, they cannot change their destructive direction. Lugar and Warner have come up with a proposal, that when examined, is simply rhetoric. Bush will ignore it. Cheney will sneer at it. The Republicans just voted against lengthening the time between re-deployments for exhausted, stressed troops. If they were sincere in stopping this war, that would have been an excellent opportunity to begin the process. They dumped it without ceremony and exposed their true colors and lack of humanity. Bush and Cheney have duly noted such votes and are high-fiving one another.Going to war with Iran is suicidal. Fanatics don't care.
Saudis' role in Iraq insurgency outlined
Sunni extremists from Saudi Arabia make up half the foreign fighters in Iraq, many suicide bombers
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-saudi15jul15,0,3132262.story?coll=la-home-center
and the saudi arabians are an ALLY of the usa ???
how many of the 9 / 11 hijackers were saudi arabian ???
15 of the 19 ???
and Iraq NEVER attacked the usa ???
but the usa Invaded and now Occupies Iraq ???
WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE ???
OMFG Juan. True or false:
Bin Laden praises martyrdom in new video http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070715/ap_on_re_mi_ea/al_qaida_video;_ylt=Aucq8dKBIpaFKiOrIDSu1qus0NUE
By OMAR SINAN, Associated Press Writer
Sun Jul 15, 1:19 AM ET
CAIRO, Egypt - A new al-Qaida videotape posted Sunday on a militant Web site featured a short, undated clip of a weary-looking Osama bin Laden praising martyrdom. ADVERTISEMENT
The bin Laden clip, which lasted less than a minute, was part of a 40-minute video featuring purported al-Qaida fighters in Afghanistan paying tribute to fellow militants who have been killed in the country.
I am getting more than a bit worried about the stability of Pakistan. What are your thoughts?
Mark
Mr. Cole,
I certainly don't want to see a U.S.-Iranian war but are you suggesting that "nothing" be done to stop Iranian forces who are killing Americans? Should their be no repurcussions for this?
You are right we are already at war with Iran, it's going on inside Iraq, but allowing Iran's influence to take over Iraq isn't in anyone's best interests, is it?
"They send fighters across the border from here. They are believed to have killed at least 200 people in the last two years in attacks."
I notice there is no claim in the transcript that all 200 killed were Iranian "troops" as you have it in the headline. One translation says "200 Iranians" and the other says "200 people." Which means that perhaps we are not only supporting covert actions against military targets, but are also "exporting terrorism" as we accuse the Iranians of doing.
Nor is the PKK the only group with which we have this sort of relationship. See for example this incident from Zahedan last February, and these excellent followups from the Sunday Telegraph and the Asia Times.
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