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Wednesday, November 04, 2009

Protests on Anniversary of Embassy Hostage-Taking;
Khamenei Complains about Obama's Negotiating Style

The Khamenei regime in Iran commemorated the taking of US embassy personnel hostage on Wednesday, with thousands of its supporters taking to the streets. But according tot he BBC, dissidents who dispute the legitimacy of last June's presidential election staged counter-rallies. The Iranian Revolutionary Guards stepped in to disperse these protests, using tear gas. Some reports say that the authorities even fired on the protesters and eyewitnesses report seeing people covered with blood..

I received this message on Facebook re: Nov. 3: "9:20Am Tehran time --huge crowds of people in TEHRAN- SHIRAZ-ISFAHAN ......coming out on the streets ---BREAKING NEWS---ANTI ISLAMIC REP. DEMONSTRATION-------martial LAW-rev. guards on streets now"

The reports are that the protests are not limited to Tehran, then, but broke out in other cities-- Shiraz, Isfahan, Rasht, etc.

AP is saying that 2,000 students confronted security forces outside Tehran University.

The protesters are being very clever, in tying their rallies to the anti-US hostage-taking of 1980-81. That break with the international world system, led by the US, is the foundation of the Khomeinist republic, which rejects American hegemony. The dissidents are rallying in honor of the same moment, but are resisting neo-authoritarianism, implicitly likening the government of Khamenei to that of the shah. While Khamenei may have bragging rights on his anti-imperial record, his regime is not less internally repressive than that of the shah. The dissidents are cleverly refocusing the debate on the domestic sphere rather than the international, where the regime has more popularity.

The Guardian has an hour-by-hour account of the events, with video and twitter maps.

This is a video of students protesting in the northern city of Rasht



Meanwhile, here are some excerpts from the USG Open Source Center translation of Khamenei's remarks on the anniversary of the hostage-taking (a move he supported at the time).

Iranian Supreme Leader Speaks on Eve of Anniversary of US Embassy Siege
Address by Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamene'i at a meeting with students and pupils ahead of Iran's Pupil's Day, marking the anniversary of the seizure of the American embassy in Tehran on 4 November 1979 -- recorded
Voice of the Islamic Republic of Iran Radio 1
Tuesday, November 3, 2009
Document Type: OSC Translated Text


(Khamene'i) In the name of God, the Merciful, the Compassionate.

I would like to welcome all you young ones, students, pupils and families of martyrs. The day of 13 Aban (4 November) has been officially named as the day to fight Global Arrogance. . .


The first issue to be addressed by your sense of discernment is what is this issue of Global Arrogance that one needs to combat? Global Arrogance means that there is a certain power in the world, or there are powers in this world, which look at themselves and find that they have financial and armed capabilities and propaganda means. In this way, they permit themselves to interfere in a proprietorial way in the domestic affairs of other countries and nations. This is what Arrogance means; the spirit of hegemony.

This, in our country and before the Revolution, manifested itself in quite an obvious way. In other words, in this vast country America had sunk its claws into the body of this nation which has such a rich history and a great past and had done so in a most (Globally) Arrogant fashion. It interfered in the fundamental affairs of the country at that time.
The reason for this was that the rulers of the country were corrupt. They had no popular base and they wanted a base of support, so they looked to America to provide them with that support.

America, of course, does not give anything for free to anyone. Providing support to the rulers carried with it the cost that the Americans would interfere in our affairs.

In the concluding years of the Pahlavi Dynasty things were even uglier than that. It was no longer a question of going to America (to receive instructions); the ambassadors of Great Britain or America used to go to the Shah's palace. Act in this way (they used to say) on the issue of oil, act in that way in international relations, act in such and such a way with your nation, act in this way with the combatants. This is the way they used to issue commands to the Shah.

And the Shah accepted this. Of course, when the head of a nation is so weak and hopeless and so subservient to the will of others, then you can rest assured what that situation really means. This was the situation of our country and this is what Arrogance means.

America is a Globally Arrogant power in the real sense of the word. this is not something that just concerns us, rather it is something that pertains to the whole world.

It is a matter that relates to the world of Islam. The Americans have an Arrogant approach towards everyone in the world. . .

The Japanese have not been able to dismantle US bases on their soil despite their technological advances. They have military bases there and they tyrannize the people. The newspapers have reported, as have news agencies, that rape and other violations occur there. In South Korea there are still (American) military bases. In Iraq the American objective is to build bases there and to settle there for 50 or 100 years.

In Afghanistan, a country from where if they manage to install their bases, they can have control over countries of South West Asia as well as Russia and China and India and Iran -- there they are making concerted efforts to build bases. Such is the meaning of Arrogance.

Through uprooting the puppet regime of Pahlavi, the nation of Iran expelled America from this country. Of course, the Americans could, after the Revolution, have come to their senses and accepted that this nation is such a powerful one. . .

Their embassy became a center of conspiracy. It became a nest of spies. It became a center for suspicious contacts aimed at compromising this person or that in order to bring down the Islamic Republic.

A US [Secretary of Defence] once said what has always been in the heart of the Americans; he said we must eradicate the Iranian nation. Do you see now; eradicating the Iranian nation.

They said they want to eradicate the nation of Iran, not the government of Iran and not the Islamic Republic. It understood quite well that the Islamic Republic means the nation the whole nation of Iran; this was their method. Whatever they could do to advance this policy they did so. . .

Well, the very new US president has said nice thing. He has given us many verbal and written messages, and said: "Let's turn the page and create a new situation. Let's cooperate with each other in resolving world problems." Well, we said that we do not want to prejudge. We said that we will wait and see how they act. They have said that they want to create a change. Let us wait and see this change. On 1 Farvardin (21 March 09) in Mashhad I said that if they extend to us an iron fist covered with a velvet glove, we will not shake it. I gave this warning there.

Eight months have passed since then. During this time, what we have witnessed is completely the opposite of what they have been saying and claiming. On the face of things they say let us negotiate. But alongside this they threaten us and say that if these negotiations do not reach a desirable result, they will do this and that. Do you call this negotiation? This is like the relationship between a wolf and a lamb which as the late Imam (Khomeyni) said we do not want such relations. (They say) Let us discuss around the negotiating table on such and such issue, for example the nuclear issue; however the precondition is that the negotiation should lead to such and such results. For example, the country should stop its nuclear activities. If it does not reach that result then they threaten that they will do such and such.

. . . When they speak Arrogantly to a nation and use threats to force issues -- saying, if you do not do such and such a thing, this or will would happen -- then this results in our nation responding, and saying we shall resist.

What the Islamic Republic wants is not beyond its logical rights. The Islamic Republic seeks its independence, freedom, national interests and advancement in science and technology. These are the rights of this nation. If anyone assaults these rights, the Iranian nation will confront them wholeheartedly and will bring them to their knees.
(Chants of: "God is great", "Khamene'i is the leader" and other indistinct slogans)

The day that America abandons its arrogant policies, the day that it stops its irrational interference in the affairs of other nations and behaves like any other government, then it will be a government similar to others. However, as long as the Americans have a covetous approach, intending to get back to Iran, renewing the past, changing history and turning the time back in order to dominate our country, they will not be able to force our nation to retreat. Let them know this.

They should not pin their hopes on agitation and what happened after the (12-June presidential) election. The Islamic Republic is more powerful and much more deep-rooted than those (incidents).

The Islamic Republic has seen much more difficult incidents and has managed to overcome them all. . .

(Description of Source: Tehran Voice of the Islamic Republic of Iran Radio 1 in Persian -- state-run radio)


End/ (Not Continued)

8 Comments:

At 10:39 AM, Blogger Arnold Evans said...

While Khamenei may have bragging rights on his anti-imperial record, his regime is not less internally repressive than that of the shah.

I don't have statistics to prove that this isn't true, but I'd be surprised if it was.

I don't think an equal number of Iranians (adjusting for population) are imprisoned today as were imprisoned in the late 1970s.

Lastly, of course Iran has elections that over 80% of Iranians believe are fair, not only for President but for the body that appoints and oversees Iran's Supreme Leader.

 
At 10:57 AM, Blogger GeneralOreo said...

The revolution wasn't about US 'hegemony,' khomeini himself said they're not scared of anything, not an invasion or anything else, but they're afraid of western morals 'corrupting' islamic culture.

The revolution and hostage crisis was about people wanting to go back to the 7th century, the US represented modern civilization.

 
At 11:00 AM, Blogger GeneralOreo said...

Oh, and the islamic republic by any sane and rational measure is substantially more oppressive than the shah could ever be.

Not surprising those with certain ideologies believe otherwise though, they were the same protesters screaming their hearts out condemning the shah and then went around and either ignored or praised the islamic republic for its savagery.

 
At 12:37 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Video of Shooting at Protesters on 4th November

So far this is the only video footage of protesters being shot at on 4th November, but as you can see even bullets are not enough to push them back. In fact it motivates them further and they shout slogans against the Supreme Leader, chanting Supreme Leader is a Murderer and His Legitimacy is Over.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NArBrta39LA&feature=player_embedded




"Death to Khamenie":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71RMTQQI-FU&feature=player_embedded

http://www.iranian.com/main/2009/nov/marg-bar-khamenei

 
At 12:37 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Baseej Women Beaters

There are so many images and video footages from today's protests in Iran that I have to go through still, but so far this one here below vividly sums up what the Iranian people are up against.

A girl is walking away and a riot guard stops her, she is all alone against the big metal gate, defenseless and not bothering anyone, but an anti-riot guard decides to lash her across the sheens a couple of times with his truncheon. But there is worse to come, another girl is pulled over and this time she is smacked in the face with the truncheon, she is knocked out and when a young man comes to her aid, he too is pulled away and kneed in the face before more women come to their rescue. Also notice the security agent with the camera who is filming the protesters. This is what they do in public, just imagine what they do behind the prisons.

Scum of the earth and their supporters.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45tPwizS4r8&feature=player_embedded

 
At 12:38 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Flynt Leverett Eat Your Words

Its going to take me some time to collect all the film footage from today's protests across Iran, but the first one is probably the most important one in terms of relaying today's protest message to the world. First footage shgows people of Iran chant 'Obama You are Either on Their Side or on Our Side'.


I have always said the vast majority of numerous American think tanks should be renamed as think tanks no thanks and how useless their researchers and policy advisers are. The likes of Flynt Leverett may think Ahmadienjad won the elections and that Ahamdinejad is in firm control of Iran but today the people of Iran once again proved the Flynt Leveretts should be sent to retirement or to the 'dustbin of history' as his friends in Iran often say.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAxF28bTIFc&feature=player_embedded

 
At 12:40 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Islamic Republic is taking a wrong path. They are becoming more centralized in power, which is good news for the revolutionary minded people and bad news for the reformists. For a few months now I am holding a theory that Iran is headed towards a absolute dictatorial state with no hope of turning back. To do so they have alienated some of the population to a point that for the first time in Islamic Republic history, demonstrations will not be an easy task for the system to control. And as many are aware, demonstrations happen regularly in Iran. Based on my theory, this will also end gradually as the system distances itself from the population in order to rule with an iron fist.

Some might argue that the system had always behaved as such and the recent events are nothing new or unexpected. There is a lot of room for argument there, as the major figures within the system had turned their political views toward the demands of different classes within the Iranian society. For time being let's stay focused on the topic of the future of the Islamic Republic and the challenges they will face....

http://www.iranian.com/main/blog/abarmard/green-revolution-will-come

 
At 1:28 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Obama's 1953 Moment:


Fifty six years ago, the United States engineered a coup that toppled the first democratically elected government in the history of the Middle East. The Iranian people never forgot that treachery, and that single event was the biggest catalyst of the 1979 anti-monarchy and anti-American revolution. That single event was also perhaps the biggest cause of anti-Americanism in the Iranian society in the latter part of the 20th century.

Now, in the 21st century, the United States is at a crossroads again when it comes to taking sides in the conflict between Iranians masses and their government, and in my opinion, Obama is choosing the wrong side. You see, for the eight years of the Bush presidency, the Bush administration legitimized the IRI by its belligerence, its threats and its over-exaggerated claims-yet minimal actual attempts-of helping the “opposition” in Iran. His threats of military attack against Iran were God’s gift to the IRI, which masterfully used the excuse to hand over control of the government and Iran’s economy to the Revolutionary Guards, and to essentially transform itself from a theocracy into a military dictatorship. At that time, Bush stood against the wishes of the Iranian people, who truly thought that they could transform this regime into something resembling a democracy by their votes. Instead of taking sides with the Iranian people and not giving ammunition to the IRI, Bush did the exact opposite and gave the IRI the tools it needed to further solidify its hold on the country.

Today, Obama is making yet another mistake by trying to engage the IRI. The June elections in Iran showed that there is very little hope, at least at this time, for a peaceful transition from IRI’s military dictatorship to a democratic system. Engaging it at this juncture is, therefore, a mistake. Don’t get me wrong. I am not talking about “crippling sanctions” or a military attack. I am simply saying that Obama should take a stand and declare that the U.S. will not negotiate or sit at a table with a regime that shoots its population on the streets and corners a defenseless woman against a wall and beats her in the head with a baton. All he has to do is to do a press conference and show videos of Neda being shot and the other woman being beaten on the street and say: “ladies and gentlemen, here its is. I won’t sit at a table with a government that does this to its citizens”. Just like Bush legitimized the IRI with his threats and belligerence, Obama is legitimizing them with his overtures of “engagement”. He is legitimizing a government that has no legitimacy with its own citizens.

The IRI is on its death march. It will be removed by the Iranian people at some point, and unfortunately, I do not believe that it will be without more sacrifice and bloodshed. When that happens, the Iranian people will remember who was with them and who was wheeling and dealing with the IRI when they were being beaten, shot and raped by this monstrous regime. The question that Mr. Obama needs to ask himself is this: which side of history does he want to be on? Does he want to have another 1953 moment, or does he want to be remembered as the U.S. president who, for the first time in the history of this country, stood with the people of Iran?

http://iranian.com/main/blog/onlyiran/obamas-1953-moment

 

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