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  1. Well what a surprise! I wonder which country has always been at war? Does the US need to be at war to make the economy work now? Watch out Iran they are looking for an excuse. And which ones just buys arms to subsidize other economies? Imagine what Saudis will do with advanced jets, Oman too.

    • Could that be because the US pays for Israel’s military?

      • just found this on Wikipedia:
        In 2008, Israel spent $16.2 billion on its armed forces, making it the country with the biggest ratio of defense spending to GDP and as a percentage of the budget of all developed countries.($2,300 per person).[48][49]

        $16.2 billion dollars and it doesn’t show up on this chart? Really??

  2. Ahh, perpetual war, the perfect Keynesian stimulus for a falling empire. I recall a rather upperty German chap following a similar economic policy back in the 1930s. I wonder how that turned out.~

    Just out of interest, is the above pie graph normalised for population size (i.e. per capita), economy (i.e. %GDP), state revenue (i.e. %taxtake) or not at all. If not, it would be interesting to see what effect such normalisation(s) would have; would Iran military spending rise above the 2% mark?

  3. A little bit odd that there are 11 ‘slices’ in the pie chart with 10 countries labelled on the outside. Who is missed out there?

  4. Other than “USA” and “Others”, there are eight labelled countries, but nine pie chart slices. Why should I believe this chart?

  5. I am surprised that Israel is not on this. What is the story there? Israel’s military spending must be somehow misrepresented here.

  6. link to en.wikipedia.org

    OK, look here – According to this, Israel’s per capita military spending is 2nd highest in the world, after Saudi Arabia. Also note that about 20% of that is gifted by American taxpayers. Also the figures here for Israel are lower than others quoted on the web, about 16 billion dollars is the typical estimate.

  7. would it possible to publish the full list; means, showing and listing the countries that are not shown in the pie chart?
    could you please elaborate your source of data and methodology too

  8. That’s a relief–I thought we were over 50% :-)
    But please note that Israel is too small to show up either. It’s bundled with “others” as Iran is.
    What would be interesting is a chart of military spending of each country as a fraction of GDP.

  9. Though the graph is uttely clear about why the US has no business maintaining a high state of public fear of ‘lesser’ states, not to mention tiny, non-expansionist nations, its two percent cutoff is arbitrary and a bit misleading, as the cluster of data points just above the two percent cutoff illustrates. Would the graph’s information density and usefulness been improved using a three percent, or a one percent cutoff? I note a suprising absence of Israel, given its arms export industry. Does this mean Iran and Israel arms expenditures are about on par?

  10. A simple illustration of why nothing of substance is going to change, short of a smaller or larger world conflagration touched off by any one of the idiot hair trigger tripwires that are strung all over, across every major passage and “choke point” and around the necks of all the average schmucks who end up paying for their own mass detonation and/or cremation, thinking they have been buying “security” with all those trillions…

  11. Ron Paul is the only candidate committed to reducing defense spending. Obama just slows the increase somewhat, and the “mainstream” are still fighting the cold war, or would start new wars to advance the neo-conservative cause.

    • But of course with Ron Paul and his apparent commitment to “reducing defense spending,” you also get another whole kettle of rotten social and political and economic fish…

      And given the realities of the DC power structure and the size of the MIC Thing, and the fact that Congress, our bought-and-paid-for MIC-AIPAC-etc. monkey house, disposes of our hard-earned money as THEY see fit, just what do the Paulists contend their Hero is going to be able to do to even match the currently maybe possible “slight reduction in the rate of growth” of the Security State and the Grand Army of the Former Republic?

  12. Disgusting, plain and simple.
    If we give Israel 3-4 billion for their military are those 3-4 billion included in our 42%, or does the bookkeeper put it in another account?

  13. I would like to know what happens to $ provided as aid. For example, if we give $10 billion in aid to Egypt on the condition they have to use it to buy $7 billion military equipment from us, where would this money fall out in the graph or does it?????

  14. I may be out of line, but since we are at war with the Taliban, it would seem important to know their spending. That’s if relative spending between opposing forces has a relationship to battlefield performance – it might not.

  15. Wouldn’t a more useful graph involve not spending, but total ordnance?

  16. @Karina. That would be *exactly* why Israel’s status doesn’t show. The U.S. pays for Israel.
    How else is it rationalised that Iran is harrassed over a fictional nuclear arms development programme – a perception that even Moussad has endorsed, in order to access an Iranian daily oil production of 4.2 million barrels, while Israel has been permitted, through French training and U.S. financing, to become the third most powerful nuclear state on the planet without so much as a murmur.

  17. @Tim. There are questions there, also.
    I would say it would be extremely doubtful that Italy would have 38 Billion in its entire budget, let alone that amount to spend on ‘Defence’ alone.

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