Saudi Prince: Turkey, Iran & Extremists are ME “Triangle of Evil”

By Juan Cole | (Informed Comment) | – –

Egypt’s al-Shuruq newspaper, which tilts liberal and secular, reports on the press conference in Cairo conducted by neophyte crown prince Muhammad Bin Salman, 32 on Wednesday.

Bin Salman said that the current “Triangle of Evil” [paraphrasing George W. Bush’s speechwriter David Frum] was Iran, Turkey and extremist religious groups. He alleged that the Muslim Brotherhood had exploited democracy, while the Turks a striving to revive the Ottoman Caliphate. He insisted that the Prophet Muhammad had never said anything about a caliphate, or prescribed any particular form of government. [This is true – JC].

He complained that the Ottoman sultans had destroyed the first Saudi state. Moreover, he averred, any enemy of Egypt’s is an enemy of Saudi Arabia’s.

The Egyptian journalists asked him when the Qatar crisis would end. He told them not to bother their heads with it. It might go on a long time, as with the US embargo on Cuba. It is not important, he said. All Qataris [citizen population 300,000], he said, could fit in one street in Cairo, and the Saudi official in charge of monitoring that conflict does not even have a cabinet level rank.

He said that Qatar had been stripped of its foreign policy influence. It still has plenty of domestic wealth, but its foreign agents had been revealed by the boycott imposed by his government.

He tried to psychoanalyze the country, suggesting that since Emir Hamad Bin Khalifa made his coup against his father in 1995, little Qatar had had an inferiority complex with regard to the bigger states around it like Saudi Arabia, and had therefore gone on a hunt for foreign influence. They found the Muslim Brotherhood willing clients and installed Brotherhood figures throughout their government at the highest levels [this is not true– JC].

He said almost no American officials cared about Qatar. Maybe one. (Both Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and Secretary of Defense Jim Mattis have called for reconciliation between Saudi Arabia and Qatar).

He said that Saudi Arabia has invested $800 billion in the US economy, four times what Qatar has. (I don’t think that statistic is reliable- JC).

He said that Saudi-Egypt relations are excellent and form the linchpin of Middle Eastern politics, and what the two of them say goes in the region.

He also praised the economic progress he said had been achieved by the government of President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi and its anti-corruption efforts. ( Egypt’s GDP growth has improved slightly, inflation has lowered, and the tourism sector is recovering, but it isn’t creating the 700,000 new jobs every year it needs and any new wealth is not being well distributed). Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Kuwait have propped up the government with tens of billions of dollars in grants and loans.

Crown Prince Bin Salman admitted that in the past, Saudi Arabia and Egypt had used the Muslim Brotherhood, in hopes of tamping down dissent from devotees of political Islam, but that the policy had backfired. Instead, he said, the Brotherhood had made trouble in schools and other social institutions. After the Iranian Revolution of 1979, he said, the Brotherhood became convinced that it would provide the model for government in the Sunni Muslim world.

He said that Saudi Arabia had issued an arrest warrant for al-Qaeda leader Usamah Bin Laden in the 1990s, but that he was protected by Western interests who saw him as a freedom fighter [because of his role fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan.]

My guess is that MbS has dirt on Western intelligence agencies in this regard, and this remark was intended to intimidate them. The US Congress has allowed Saudi Arabia to be sued over the September 11, 2001, attacks, although there is no evidence that the Saudi Government was involved, and there is ample evidence that Western agencies backed Bin Laden’s hosts and supporters in Afghanistan.

He also said that the Saudi government’s counter-terrorism efforts inside the kingdom had borne great fruit, with extremist sentiments falling from 60% to 10%.

The prince said that the Muslim Brotherhood had ridden on the coattails of the Hanbali school of law but that his government was changing that equation. He said that the Shiites of Saudi Arabia [some 12% of the population] live in security and are employed in all sectors, and that he has many Shiite friends, and that they fight in the Saudi army against the Houthis [Zaydi Shiites in Yemen]. Saudi Shiites, he said, are playing an important role in bringing Saudi Arabia and Iraq closer together.


Bonus video:

WION: “Saudi Prince arrives in Egypt: First ever public official trip abroad”

6 Responses

  1. Thanks I came to read this here as the reports in much of the media are tainted with dogmas and the use of the same old same old lens to view everything, by progressives or otherwise. “He insisted that the Prophet Muhammad had never said anything about a caliphate, or prescribed any particular form of government. [This is true – JC].” – This is a very welcome statement. However tyranny is condemned throughout the Quran, by the Prophet Muhammad and is a self-evident evil. Muslims quietly describe their most oppressive rulers as “Fir’un” – (Pharoah). Such use of this word is about as strong as it gets in Arabic. There is a whole class of people in the Middle East, some with power, some with ambition, who would do well to remember this.

  2. A contextual explanation should have went with the last paragraph as well on MBS’s comment on Saudi Shiites’ security and employment. Just seems like an omission to paint better sectarian relations, when there probably isn’t.

    The Shiite majority town of Awamiyah was put under siege and devastated by the Saudi government and military in their quest to quell protesters during 2017 (and of course other brutal crackdowns in earlier years).

    Considering that the state religion of Wahhabism still considers Shiites as non-Muslims or ‘kafirs’ as doctrine, and being embroiled in what can be seen as sectarianism with conflicts in Syria and Yemen, I doubt there’s been much improvement on curbing workplace and other government and societal prejudices and discrimination against local Saudi Shiites.

    When the supposedly modern Sunni monarchy in the UAE is now openly indulging in bigoted anti-Shia sectarian discrimination (and partly viewing Shiites as a fifth column for Shia Iran) as policy during these years such as denying visas to Shiite applicants, expelling longtime Shiite expats on security clearances and stalling or outright denying benefits for local Shia Emiratis, can’t imagine Saudi Arabia being any more hospitable.

    There is also the case of the non-Saudi Bahraini Shiite population whose Arab Spring protests were also militarily repressed by Saudi military.

    Also, I’d be curious to see how extremist sentiments fell from a whopping 60% to 10% and how he came up with these numbers. What do they identify as extremist in Sunni fundamentalism and what does this de-radicalization program entail?

  3. Biting off more than one can chew. Trying to start a war with Iran hasn’t worked, so now he’s adding NATO power Turkey to his enemies list.

    “He said that Saudi Arabia has invested $800 billion in the US economy, four times what Qatar has.”

    So what? KSA’s economy is much bigger and has been raking in wealth longer than Qatar, so proportionately the Qataris are making a bigger commitment to the USA. Are we judging which countries we will make our allies in war by the proportion of their commitment? Or does he simply think the USA is for sale to the highest bidder?

  4. Pot calling the kettle. Saudi Arabia, with support of the US, and conspiring with Israel, is one of the most dangerous Arab nations in the region. No young prince, nor allowing women to drive, can change it’s image around the world. They are wasting their money paying expensive consultants to perform a miracle.

  5. It is true that the Quran does not spell out a specific political system. In the beginning it was a guided democracy by which leaders chosen only by the knowledgeable.

    There is nothing objectionable if parliamentarians are chosen by one person one vote.

    It can even be a benevolent constitutional monarchy under which a dedicated, committed and honest ruler is more efficient, more progressive and more honest than some of the horrendous corrupt democracies (Pakistan for instance)

    The Qur’an speaks of kings, both good and bad, and never refers to other forms of government, such as a republic. It encourages political administration by consultations

    The fact that there have been differences of opinion, at the death of the Prophet, shows that he had not left positive and precise instructions regarding his succession.

    Certain groups wanted that the state power should rest, as an heirloom, in his family – and since he had left no male issue, his uncle ‘Abbas, or his cousin ‘Ali were the next of kin to succeed him.

    Others wanted an ad hoc individual election. And inside this group, there were differences as to the candidate to be chosen. An overwhelming majority rallied in favour of an election.

    This is something that Muslim political scientists should solve by what we call ijtihad (independent reasoning based on the situation, environment, social and educational development of the people.

    But a very narrow based nationalism is discouraged in Islam

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