Afghan article says US Bin-Ladin hunt phoney
The USG Open Source Center translates an article from the Persian Afghan press alleging that French troops were at one point close to capturing Usamah Bin Ladin in Afghanistan, but that American forces stopped them from doing so. It says that a forthcoming French documentary containing interviews with the French soldiers provides proof for the allegation. The argument is that the Bush administration needed Bin Ladin to be at large in order to justify its military expansionism.
Afghan article says US Bin-Ladin hunt phoney
Hasht-e-Sobh
Friday, October 3, 2008
Document Type: OSC Translated Text
Afghan article says US Bin-Ladin hunt phoney
Text of article, "Bin-Ladin on the run? The rumour which was fact", by Afghan independent secular daily newspaper Hasht-e Sobh on 29 September
So, the rumour was right: French soldiers trapped Usamah Bin-Ladin, but were not allowed by the Americans to arrest the apparent fugitive leader of Al-Qa`idah. A Bin-Ladin documentary just released by French documentary cinema examines this issue, an issue which has led to heated debate in the French media.
This French documentary shows how the Americans are interested in continuing the game, a bloody and expensive game whose victims are only the unprotected and local people of our dry and dusty country. It was last year that rumours spread about this report in Kabul, but it has not been taken seriously by the media. But watching this revealing French documentary changes the rumours into disturbing facts. "Bin Laden, the failings of a manhunt", produced by Emmanuel Razavi and Eric de Lavarene, two French filmmakers and reporters, assesses and confirms the claims of French soldiers that they could have killed Usamah within two operations, but the American forces prevented them. This film has not been broadcast publicly yet and is to be broadcast by Planet, a French network.
Even though French soldiers have insisted on this in the battlefield many times, the Elysees Palace in Paris and the White House in America have rejected this, and the Afghan leadership does not have any information about it yet!
The main question that arises is the extent to which the "Bin Laden on the run" project is a problem for America and Afghanistan. Seven years of suicide bombing and explosions, blood and violence, unmanned fighter planes, and old vehicles full of explosives, all to catch a long-bearded Arab whom America apparently hates? And an Arab who worked for the CIA in the name of Allah, and who now, also in the name of that same Allah, has conducted a jihad against that same CIA?
Facing the facts in this Usamah film is a bitter and disturbing experience and will make you nervous and wish that what it is that you are watching is just a baseless rumour, or a figment of Hollywood's imagination. But it is not. The pictures are real and you are facing a debate in documentary form. The only justification for the bloody presence of America in Afghanistan is the ambiguous existence of Usamah Bin-Ladin and the Al-Qa'idah terrorist network.
George Bush, with his "war on terror" project, has transformed the middle east and Afghanistan into an inflamed bomb ready to explode, but has not found out anything about his beloved lost Usamah Bin-Ladin so far.
What is seen, and the film also emphases this, is that all these slogans, this fighting and killing are a game, a painful and prolonged game whose end even the players do not know and which is running out of control. Apparently, it is a game of cat and mouse, just like "Tom and Jerry", the famous cartoon. But it is a reality that the stubborn one from Texas does not want to catch the mouse - unlike credulous Tom - and that the long-bearded Wahhabi Arab does not want to hide - unlike the intelligent and roaming Jerry. Their prolonged game has made not only the audiences tired but has also transformed the playground into a big pool of blood.
There have always been questions that neither the politicians have been willing to answer, nor the independent western media to raise. If Usamah is not the lost one of the Americans, then who is? What are the Americans searching for in Afghanistan and who are they looking for? The main media in the West remained silent before the report of the Usamah Bin-Ladin arrest by French soldiers. And, through a news boycott, they reduced a certain fact to a rumour.
Certainly, they will do the same before this film, too. But instead they will try to complicate the scenario. More painful than anything else is the political fair in Kabul, a poor fair where everyone offers his despicable commodity - a combination of generous western customers and thankful sellers of the country. Everyone knows the fact, like "an obvious secret", but no one wants to irritate the delicate minds of their nervous guests, guests who will be staying at home until the new year.
Politicians try to forget such news in Kabul, and this is the advice they give to the people. Forgetting and ignoring such facts is possible, but how can we forget and ignore the bombs exploding next to our houses every day?
Bombs which sometimes rise from the ground and sometimes descend from the air.
(Description of Source: Kabul Hasht-e-Sobh in Dari Kabul Hasht-e Sobh in Dari - Eight-page secular daily launched in May 2007; editor-in-chief, Qasim Akhgar, is a political analyst and Head of the Association for the Freedom of Speech. )

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Two year old reports on this documentary from Al Jazeera and Fox.
According to an Afghan official, there has never been a hunt for Osama. If the US catches him, then the world will demand they leave the region.
I think the US even pays Osama to make those scary audio tapes. The more scared the world is, the longer the US can stay in South Asia. Remember, Afghanstan borders China and Iran and the US is building military bases in Afghanstan to shore-up its global dominance. BEING IN AFGHANSTAN HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OSAMA BIN LADEN !!!
So--Usama Bin-Laden is actually Emmanuel Goldstein. This in fact occurred to me a long time ago, but without any supporting evidence.
C Matheson
Huntington NY
For the last year or two I've thought exactly what has been said here, that UBL was "allowed" to escape so WE could continue our war against the rest of the world. If UBL were caught there would be no reason for all the killing.
Bushco needs to be strung up by their collective nuts.
This report sheds light on the oft-repeated claim by Senator John McCain during his Presidential campaign, that he knew how to capture Mr Usamah Bin Laden. He was repeatedly confronted with the question whether it was not patriotic that he shared his knowledge with the Bush Administration then, months in advance of possibly becoming President himself. Remarkably, he always found a way to escape answering this straightforward question.
As an aside, the above story contains at least three remarkable coincidences. Firstly, the Persian/Dari words "Hasht" and "Sobh" mean "Eight" and "Morning", respectively (thus, Hasht-e Sobh means Eight in the Morning). Now, the time difference between Tehran and Kabul is exactly one hour,* and such that 8 am Kabul's time is exactly 7 am Tehran's time. Secondly, and remarkably, there is an Iranian feature film named "Tehran Sa'at-e Haft-e Sobh"** (Tehran, Seven O'clock in the Morning --- in Persian/Dari, "Haft" stands for "Seven"), made in 2004, which not only is extremely hilarious, but is one of the most intelligent observations of causally unrelated but meaningfully related events in the lives of a number of apparently randomly-sampled dwellers of a large city (in this case Tehran --- the story-line of the film is rendered continuous by showing the main, but unrelated, characters in the same but limited number of frames). Thirdly, and again remarkably, the Director of this film is Mr Amir-Shahab Razavian.** This name is to be contrasted with Emmanuel Razavi, one of the co-produces of the French documentary at issue. Of course, Razavi is different from Razavian, but both names refer to the principal name Reza (they mean of, or related to, Reza; Razavian is also the plural of Razavi).
BF.
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* For the international time zones, one may consult:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/
** For details, the reader is referred to:
http://www.citwf.com/film344824.htm
I was dismayed to discover that one of the stories in this film is in fact entirely based on an account in the biography of the Persian Sufi poet Farid ud-Din Attar Neyshabury (1145-1221), without this fact being explicitly acknowledged in the film credits (Attar became a mystic as a result of the very event described in this account).
But what of the rumor I have heard multiple times, that Osama bin Laden is dead? Such as from Benazir Bhutto. Is that also not true? Perhaps someone should tell our new president-elect. After all, he has said he wants to continue the fight in Afghanistan to get the guy.
Randi
I have long belived that the worst thing we could do is find Bin-Laden.
What would the Arab world do if we captured or killed him. Things could only get worse.
Better that he die anonymously in a cave.
If nothing else this article proves that Bush/Cheney , republicans and the democrats of this last 8 years; have destroy the credibility and honor of our country along with their destruction of our economy , military , nation and citizens..
Bush Cheney and "this" administration , including the democrats , will go down in history as the most criminal group of elected government body in the "WORLD".
Anyone else recall a strange truce or fighting lull that occurred during the Tora Bora campaign. It was characterized by some unexplained flights out of the area. Can't find any details of it now but I distinctly recall it.
For Randi and others who might be interested.
According to the analysis by Representative Press, Ms Bhutto misspoke the name; she had meant to say "Daniel Pearl". For details, please watch the following video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IIn_UnLO9I
and consult its corresponding Information Box on the right-hand side of the screen (more info should be clicked on).
BF.
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ps) In my previous comment, "co-produces" should have been "co-producers".
Same thing as the Serbian warlord on whose head NATO and the CIA placed a $5 million reward. He remained at large (probably because he was slaughtering Muslims)for many years. A reporter, aided by a cameraman and a local guide, found him in less than a week. Bin Laden is an asset - assuming he's still alive. Bush gets to slaughter and torture unarmed civilians - which he obviously enjoys - and the MIC gets to make a bundle. Win. Win. But hardly news.
But what of the rumor I have heard multiple times, that Osama bin Laden is dead? Such as from Benazir Bhutto.
She said that right into the face of David Frost, an extremely well regarded and awarded "establishment" journalist who'd previously interviewed every luminary on earth like e.g. Nixon on Watergate with his "unrelentingly searing approach to the hard questions" and he just let the statement ride on by! Skipped rgiht on past the biggest story scoop this millenium onto to the next inane question without even a flutter of the eyelid. The next day she was dead. Don't believe me? Check the interview - it's on Youtube.
Usama is alive and well I have spoken with him in person as of november 16 2008
Bin Laden is dead. he has not been seen or spoken to since late 2001:
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/osama_dead.html
Gee I wonder if anyone has searched the Binladen family home in Saudi Arabia. I would'nt be surprized if he's been sitting at home all along, watching the entertainment on TV.
I have always thought that Osama bin Laden was working at the Bush Ranch in Crawford, TX awaiting for Bush to have him produce another video clip at a pivotal time in his war games in both Iraq or Afghanistan. However, seeing that there was none for the final election I think he got an Guild Actor Union Card and has gone on strike for better parts to play.
According to an article in the French paper "Le Figaro" in summer 2001, Osama bin Laden was visited by CIA agents while in hospital in Dubai, where he was having kidney dialysis treatment. On the night of September 10, 2001, as reported by CBS news, OBL was again in a military hospital in Rawalpindi (Pakistan) in a facility shared by US military and intelligence personnel who report back to DC on a daily basis. The FBI has not indicted OBL in connection with 9/11, because (according to FBO spokesperson Rex Tomb "the FBI has no hard evidence linking OBL with 9/11". OBL has gotten away from coalition troops in Afghanistan on no less than four separate occasions, after being surrounded. President Bush has stated: "I am not that concerned about catching bin Laden", shortly after the invasion of Iraq in 2003. This sounds very much as if OBL is either dead (and they don't want to say anything because the boogeyman fear factor suddenly disappears), or he is being kept in a safe house, by US intelligence. After all, OBL has many former friends and acquaintances in the agency from the 1980s when he and his Afghani mujahadeen buddies ("the database" a.k.a. "al qaeda") were being supplied with $billions in state of the art weapons, equipment and funding, to wage a (successful) war against the Soviets. Reagan even equated those people as "freedom fighters on a par with our founding fathers". Nice!
This sounds very dubious. How do these soldiers (who remain nameless) know they could have killed bin Laden? Second, OBL never worked for the CIA. Certainly they might have had common acquaitances but no more. The assertion is just an anti-American conspiracy theory. Grow up, Mr. Cole, don't just reflexively access anti-American bs.
This is bullshit. Are you honestly arguing that Bush and Cheney preferred to wilfully prolong a war that sapped US lives and revenue, rather than capture the man who brought the twin towers down? Do you honestly think that any US President is going to sacrifice the electoral advantage that comes from capturing Osama Bin Laden? 'Hey, vote for us. We got the man who killed up to 3,000 of our own citizens. We can protect America, see?'
You people are on some serious drugs. It's also worth noting that if you read proper books rather than consult dodgy onlie sources, you'd realise that the CIA did not train Bin Laden in the 1980s. Read the following and learn:
These authors specifically state that the Makhtab-al-Khidmat (’service bureau’) which Abdullah Azzam and Osama bin Laden set up to support the few thousand or so Arab fighters who travelled to Pakistan in the 1980s worked autonomously, funded by private donations from the Gulf, and had no contact with the CIA or ISI:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Holy-War-Inc-Inside-Secret/dp/0753816687/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1215883120&sr=1-1
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Osama-Bin-Laden-Know-Al-Qaedas/dp/0743278917/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1215883120&sr=1-2
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Al-Qaeda-True-Story-Radical-Islam/dp/0141031360/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1215883353&sr=1-1
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ghost-Wars-Secret-History-Afghanistan/dp/0141020806/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1215883520&sr=1-2
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Inside-Al-Qaeda-Rohan-Gunaratna/dp/1850656711/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1215883676&sr=1-2
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Looming-Tower-Al-Qaedas-Road/dp/0141029358/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1215883694&sr=1-1
I’ll provide some page references, because I know that some of you are too lazy to actually read books:
Peter Bergen - There is ‘no evidence’ of any US funding or assistance to bin Laden, or ‘any evidence of CIA personnel meeting with bin Laden or anyone else in his circle’('The Osama bin Laden I knew’, pp.60-61).
Jason Burke - CIA funding for the anti-Soviet jihad went ‘exclusively to the Afghan mujahideen groups, not the Arab volunteers’ (p.59).
Steve Coll - OBL was ‘out of CIA eyesight’ during the 1980s (p.87).
Lawrence Wright - States in ‘The Looming Tower’ that the Makhtab-al-Khidmat and the Arab fighters operated autonomously from Peshawar (pp.100-108).
Milt Bearden (the CIA station chief in Pakistan from 1986-1989, and a critic of the ‘war on terror’ and the 2001 invasion of Afghanistan) stressed that US training was only offered to Afghans, not to any Arab or other foreign jihadis (’The Main Enemy’, (Random House 2003),p.243).
Oh, and by the way, the French Defence Ministry denied the story 2 years ago:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,238101,00.html
The Bin Laden in Dubai story was also refuted a long time ago:
http://www.911myths.com/html/bin_ladin_met_the_cia.html
Do your homework properly, people.
sackcloth and ashes... You say "Do your homework properly, people."
Bin Laden has never been indicted for the 9/11 attacks. The FBI admit they have no proof against him..
'Bin Laden has never been indicted for the 9/11 attacks. The FBI admit they have no proof against him..'
That's another gross error. Read, and learn, child.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/27/AR2006082700687.html
And a money quote, because I know you'll be too lazy to read it in its full detail:
‘”The indictments currently listed on the posters allow them to be arrested and brought to justice,” the FBI says in a note accompanying the terrorist list on its Web site. “Future indictments may be handed down as various investigations proceed in connection to other terrorist incidents, for example, the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001.”‘
Try again, you semi-educated cretin.
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