Energy Committee Chairman Candidate Says God Promised no More Catastrophic Climate Change after Noah

Rep. John Shimkus (R-Ill.), who will seek the Energy and Commerce Committee chairmanship maintains that we do not have to worry about climate change because God promised in the Bible not to destroy the world again after Noah’s flood.

The video I posted got pulled by YouTube as ‘spam’, which it isn’t, so I presume Google was successfully trolled; but I found another one; unfortunately it has added expletive subtitles for which I apologize. Update: A reader found a better one:

YouTube has the video:

About half the newly elected Congressmen are climate deniers (and if past experience is any guide, about a third of them are criminals).

You know how climate change deniers are always saying that in past geological ages carbon dioxide reached 1000 parts per million or more in the atmosphere, with no dramatic effect on the world’s temperatures? Yeah, just an increase of 2.5 to 5 degrees.

At the upper end of that range, The Guardian writes

‘ According to the government’s 2006 Stern review on the economics of climate change, between 7 million and 300 million more people would be affected by coastal flooding each year, there would be a 30-50% reduction in water availability in Southern Africa and the Mediterranean, agricultural yields would decline 15 to 35% in Africa and 20 to 50% of animal and plant species would face extinction. In the UK, the most significant impact would be rising sea levels and inland flooding. Climate modellers also predict there would be an increase in heavy rainfall events in winter and drier summers.’

Here is a global warming impact map for North America.

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  1. Hahahahaha. Sharia law is battled against in Oklahoma yet this guy uses his Bible in an official hearing. Being a Christian he should well know that there will be an Armageddon. If God isn’t going to ‘doom’ us again until then, then according to HIS rationale, we are at the end of times…

    • God of course is a notorious practical joker. Remember Abraham? Tells the guy to go kill his kids, just as he is about to do it, god says “hey…hey…wait a second now…I was just kidding. Man, can’t you take a joke?”

      Even if you believed in a white, bearded, robed God up in the clouds (you would have to be a little brain dead to believe in that form of the diety, but okay) had promised…the promise would be about a billion times less serious than a promise you yourself might make to an ant.

      ONE serious point (okay…semi-serious)…. all these folks that want to pick and choose out of the bible, as if it were a smorgasbord, and that believe the bible to be “the word of god, to man” (of course, it is EDITED too…there were many scriptures from the same time on the same subject left out…by man) then how in the world can they justify not learning the original language that was closest to the word? I mean, the King James bible, how many translations from the original is that? What hubris must it be for a man to TRANSLATE the word of god? How can you know he didn’t slip in a few of his own biases?
      No…I think all the “god fearing” Christians, should have to learn sanscrit, hebrew, and anything else that was around at the time before they are allowed to interpret “what god said”.

      • Your rationale is much like the rationale of a Muslim (in regards to understanding the text in the original language).

    • A lot of people want it to be the end times. They’ve gotten themselves wrapped up in a Christian end of the world fantasy. Religion can help people get through difficult lives, but as we see here it can be pathological.

      • Religion was originally intended for personal enlightenment, then quickly became a vehicle for judging and manipulating and controlling everyone else, and Christianity is as guilty of this as any other religion, including Islam.

  2. And the Bible sayeth:

    9:11 I will establish my covenant with you; neither will all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of the flood; neither will there any more be a flood to destroy the earth.”

    9:12 God said, “This is the token of the covenant which I make between me and you and every living creature that is with you, for perpetual generations:

    9:13 I set my rainbow in the cloud, and it will be for a sign of a covenant between me and the earth.

    9:14 It will happen, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the rainbow will be seen in the cloud,

    9:15 and I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh, and the waters will no more become a flood to destroy all flesh.

    9:16 The rainbow will be in the cloud. I will look at it, that I may remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is on the earth.”

    9:17 God said to Noah, “This is the token of the covenant which I have established between me and all flesh that is on the earth.”

    No flood, BUT…
    heh, heh

    • Peter 2. 3:7, 10 The day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

      Revelation 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

      • @Liz1388,
        Why are you quoting from the worst book of fiction ever written, the “Holy” Bible? If you dont know any Science go learn about Geology and Astrophysics.

        • I think you mean “holey”, ‘cuz its stories are so full of holes.

        • Obviously Liz1388’s comment was meant either as a sarcastic response to point out the bible is contradictory or it was meant seriously to point out that the bible does predict global warming. Either way, the passage she chose rebuts what the Congressman was saying (because it literally says that the Heavens – i.e. the ozone – will pass away and the elements and earth will be burned up – global warming, melting of ice caps, etc. ) and thus I believe she is pointing out that climate change denial based on the promise to Noah is ridiculous.

          So please read her comment intelligently and attempt to see her point rather than instinctively kicking out against the bible.

          Also, before you instinctively kick out against me for defending her – I agree the bible is bullshit and has no place in intelligent debate other than as one of many historical references.

      • That is EXACTLY what WILL happen to the Earth when the Sun eventually turns into a Red Giant, near the end of its live-cycle, and consumes Mercury, Venus, and most likely the Earth. This is scheduled to happen in about 4-5 BILLION more years.

        Or, the same result could also happen if (when) we get smacked again by another large asteroid – that’s much more likely (probably several times) before the whole Red Giant thing…

      • No “Reply” option for Katja’s comment on this thread.

        Yes, my comment was meant as sarcasm. When I shared this on my Facebook wall I added “More evidence that atheists know Biblical scripture better than Xtians.”

        Bad enough voters elect leaders who plan on legislating based upon a book of myths. I’m not sure what it says when an elected “leader” can’t even remember the myths right.

        All I know is that the kind of myopic and irresponsible voting we just witnessed in the midterms is a sure fire way to make this country irrelevant, and ineffectual on the world stage.

        I trust this clarifies my position?

    • Genesis 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

      With dominion (power of possession, control, disposal, governance, authority) comes responsibility.

      Genesis 2:3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

      Creation is Holy because it is sanctified. Misuse and abuse of creation makes it as unclean as woman during the three days after she passes blood.

      Genesis 3:17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;

      The world is cursed because we abused it and used it for the wrong things.

      Ezekiel 16:19 My meat also which I gave thee, fine flour, and oil, and honey, wherewith I fed thee, thou hast even set it before them for a sweet savour: and thus it was, saith the Lord GOD. 16:20 Moreover thou hast taken thy sons and thy daughters, whom thou hast borne unto me, and these hast thou sacrificed unto them to be devoured. Is this of thy whoredoms a small matter, 16:21 That thou hast slain my children, and delivered them to cause them to pass through the fire for them? 16:25 Thou hast built thy high place at every head of the way, and hast made thy beauty to be abhorred, and hast opened thy feet to every one that passed by, and multiplied thy whoredoms.

      In Modern English: “You FUCKED up. You cheated on me. You FUCKED with your brothers, sisters, even your own MOTHER. Now you’re FUCKING with idols and burning your CHILDREN. I gave you good and beautiful things, even a perfectly decent PLANET and now you’re WHORING yourself out and WHORING them out. I can’t even stand to look at you because of the STENCH of sitting in your own SHIT (c.f. the symbolism in chapters 4 and 23).”

      Revelation 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. 21:5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, write: for these words are true and faithful. 5:6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him
      that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.

      Again, in Modern English: “You know what? I still love you, and we can still fix this. You may have been a slut and you may have made a mess of the planet, but I built the first one and I can fix it or make a new one. Just come back and we can make it work.”

      Ezekiel 13:22 Because with lies ye have made the heart of the righteous sad, whom I have not made sad; and strengthened the hands of the wicked, that he should not return from his wicked way, by promising him life: 13:23 Therefore ye shall see no more vanity, nor divine divinations: for I will deliver my people out of your hand: and ye shall know that I am the LORD.

      If you teach there is no global warming, you better make sure you are right, lest God judge you as a teacher.

    • Well said, I was wondering if anyone on here actually read the Bible for themselves.

  3. Yeah sure, but Shimkus missed the fact that Zeus, Odin, The Great Serpent, & The Coatli are just fine with catastrophic climate change. Ditto Cthulhu.

    Five to your one, boy-o.

    • Where does the Flying Spaghetti Monster stand on the issue of global catastrophes?

      • I believe he will change the seas and ocean to an orgy of bolognese sauce and meatballs.

      • Pastafarian doctine: Global climate change is directly corollated to the decline of pirates… everyone know that!! Only more pirates will solve climate change.

        • Pirates are on the rise, at least in Somalia. The end of our climate troubles must be near!

        • Does this mean that The Pirate Bay is an environmental activist group?

  4. As alarming as it may seem to have a long-serving congressional representative quoting the infallibility of the Bible as evidence against climate change, I believe that Biblical delusion is a far less serious long-run threat than the addiction to economic growth as a cause of serious the myriad sorts environmental degradation that threaten the future of civilization. Whether climate change is really the most serious of those problems or not is unimportant if they are all being caused by the same problem–too many people consuming resources and generating waste faster than the environment tolerates. Just yesterday I saw the headline US help needed to sustain India’s nine to ten percent growth rate for next 30 years: PM. When will we face up to the reality that the resources of this world are finite and that incessant growth of the economy and the population are unsustainable?

    • Bingo. “Growth” has become one of those things, like mom, apple pie, and the notorious third rail on the subway, that nobody dare touch.

      Maybe it’s time to take a leaf from Dr. Cole’s “Israeli squatters” nomenclature and say “metastasize” instead of “grow”.

      “This city must metastacize, and as your new mayor…”
      Last year, BigCo metastacized by 50%, after engulfing MediumCo and Britain’s LargeCo…”

      It’s time to recognize that The Body Public is what’s important, and work to curb the metastacization of things that are harmful to it, while encouraging things that promote its health. Like, um – health care for everyone.

      • As humorous as your comment sounds, it is true. Metastasize is the perfect word to describe a functioning city. But is there less accurate word we can use to describe the same concept, one that would be more palatable to the general public?

    • Though growth at all costs is undesirable, growth is essential for the future of mankind.

      Populations have grown (almost exponentially) since “ancient” times, and the only reason there are not starving children in the streets of every city in the world (not just the poorest), is because of economic growth based on the exploitation of natural resources. First it was the exploitation of the land (agriculture), then the exploitation of raw materials (oil, metals, wood, water). What we need to do now is change what we are exploiting from materials to ideas. Breakthroughs in the material sciences have made it possible to use plastics instead of wood or metal. Synthetic food (including meat) is already being developed. Energy is necessarily (see: Peak Oil) going to come from artificial (nuclear) and renewable (solar, wind, geothermal, etc) resources.

      Growth is not inherently bad. It is growth based on exploitation of non-renewable resources that is bad.

      • A rate of growth that is equal to or less than the rate of decay is what is essential for the future of humanity. You neglect in your answer to specify where the materials for plastics or synthetic meats are coming from. You neglect to mention that, far from being done exploiting land and raw materials, we continue to do this and will always need to do this to sustain ourselves, no matter how good our ideas or materials technology gets (we will still need raw materials, after all, and they have to come from somewhere…).

        The simple fact is, there are too damn many of us on this planet and all of our problems are rooted in this. We have done quite well for ourselves, but we’re at the point where we are our own worst problem, and we are the only thing threatening our long-term survival as a species (as well as the survival of almost everything else on this planet).

        • “A rate of growth that is equal to or less than the rate of decay”

          vat?

          I´m afraid you don´t understand the concept of life, nor the concept of “growth”

          And we´re far from being capable of threatening “all the life”, nor the “planet”…at least till the development of autoreplicant nanobots, maybe…

          Too many of us? Why? For which technological level? Prove it, please.

      • The problem with plastics and other synthetics is that they don’t decompose. Unless we recycle, these items with a shelf-life of a kazzilion years will continue to pile up and pollute. As for nuclear power…what to do with the waste? There has got to be a better alteernative.

    • When will we face up to the fact of over consumption by the West, particularly the USA?

  5. “God gave Noah the rainbow sign;
    No more water, the fire next time”

    Drier summers = more wild fires. (Among other things.)

  6. And of course, the bible says that GOD won’t do us in… it says nothing about him saving us from our own idiocy.

  7. This is retarded. God also condone selling your daughter and beating your slaves….Ummm, I dont think people should put all their eggs in a basket made of doodie and lies. I dont understand how someone who can get elected will try to use the bible in instances like this. There was no science back then, these people didnt even understand basic human problems like seizures(the person was thought to be possessed) or where the rain came from. Why should you base you facts on a book that doesnt even apply to life today- where was god talking about pollution, cancer and nuclear war? Oh yeah, he wasnt because he doesnt exist.

  8. The Acadian Empire was ended by a series of decade long droughts and Genesis chapters eleven and twelve discuss how Terah (Abrams father) took his people from the region around the city of Ur of the Chaldees, now in southern Iraq, and went north and then east into the Land of Canaan to escape it. Later Abram went south into Egypt to escape the severe droughts and repeated famines associated with this severe climate change event that affected a large portion of the Earth:

    “The Holocene vegetation history of the northern coastal Arabian
    Peninsula is of long-standing interest, as this Mediterranean/
    semiarid/arid region is known to be particularly sensitive to climatic
    changes. Detailed palynological data from an 800-cm alluvial
    sequence cored in the Jableh plain in northwest Syria have been
    used to reconstruct the vegetation dynamics in the coastal lowlands
    and the nearby Jabal an Nus¸ayriyah mountains for the period
    2150 to 550 B.C. Corresponding with the 4.2 to 3.9 and 3.5 to 2.5
    cal kyr BP abrupt climate changes (ACCs), two large-scale shifts to
    a more arid climate have been recorded. These two ACCs had
    different impacts on the vegetation assemblages in coastal Syria.
    The 3.5 to 2.5 cal kyr BP ACC is drier and lasted longer than the 4.2
    to 3.9 cal kyr BP ACC, and is characterized by the development of
    a warm steppe pollen-derived biome (1100–800 B.C.) and a peak of
    hot desert pollen-derived biome at 900 B.C. The 4.2 to 3.9 cal kyr
    BP ACC is characterized by a xerophytic woods and shrubs pollenderived
    biome ca. 2050 B.C. The impact of the 3.5 to 2.5 cal kyr BP
    ACC on human occupation and cultural development is important
    along the Syrian coast with the destruction of Ugarit and the
    collapse of the Ugarit kingdom at ca. 1190 to 1185 B.C.”
    Middle East coastal ecosystem response to middle-to-late Holocene abrupt climate changes: D. Kaniewski, E. Paulissen, E. Van Campo, M. Al-Maqdissi, J. Bretschneider, and K. Van Lerberghe; PNAS  September 16, 2008  vol. 105  no. 37  13941–13946 or http://www.pnas.orgcgidoi10.1073pnas.0803533105 

    The practice of cherry-picking a Bible verse here and a verse there without understanding the historical context, read Bible History, can reverse the actual meaning of the language used. And of course, as mentioned above, the cited verses merely say that there will not be another worldwide flood not that there will be no further abrupt climate change.

    People

    • “read Bible History”.
      There is little if any History in the Bible. Read “The Bible Unearthed”, Finklestein and Silberman. They are two qualified Israeli Archaeologists, not quack “archaeologists” who dig with the spade in one hand and a bible in the other hand. This book uncoverers all the LIES in the Bible.

      All the Bible is, is a very poor plagairism of Egyptian Astrotheology with some of the Sumerian, Akkadian and Babylonian myths thrown in. There is no proof of who wrote it. It seems to have been written no earlier than the 7th Century BCE. Worse still, it has been redacted, mistranslated and altered to fit in with the propaganda put out by Judeo/Christianity.

      I am a bedraggled refugee from the “Holy” Roman Catholic Church, now proudly Atheist. I am well read in the bible and ancient history, especially Ancient Egypt.

  9. Just one more politician from my state of Illinois making himself and us a laughingstock. Damn it South Carolina! Are you going stand for this? Shimkus clearly has thrown down the gauntlet.

  10. Seriously. This is what Teabagging Republicans bring to the table. Wow. Way to go Democrats. Thanks for not coming out to vote this season. The next 2 years should work out really great for everyone.

    • some people can’t see that 8 years of crap can’t be solved by one man in 2 years.

  11. Does not compute. I’m pretty sure the issue is that PEOPLE are causing climate change, not GOD.

    And, assuming you believe in Him, if God were causing the problem I sincerely doubt that legislation would stop it.

    • Also the earth should not be our focus, we need to save ourselves from our ego . the earth will shrug us off like so much eczema if we keep this up.

  12. That’s right, we couldn’t even build an ark today and put two of every on it, but people 2000+ years ago were able to? Leave it up to someone calling the shots to base all their decisions on a big book of fairytales.

  13. God gave Noah a rainbow sign, Lawd, Lawd.
    God gave Noah a rainbow sign, yes indeed.
    God gave Noah a rainbow sign, “No more water;
    The fire next time.
    You got a home in that Rock, yes indeed.

  14. Wow. I wish I was able to be shocked by this, but you get kind of numb after a while. And Americans keep electing people like this. I suuure hope the electorate at least swings wildly back to the left again in two more years . . . though the amount of damage idiots like this can do in just two years is probably pretty catastrophic.

  15. I agree with JT McPhee, God only promised to not send floods again…next time we won’t get off so easy…

  16. Stunningly stupid.
    Just for making this statement this “congressman” should be laughed off the house floor.
    How intelligent and educated people can continue to believe in religious myths and fairy tales is frightening. What’s even scarier is that “intellectuals” like this nut are in positions of power in our government.

    I’m wondering, does he support incest too as that is the only way Adam and Eve’s offspring could have increased the population.

  17. Wow, this doesn’t make the States look primitive at all.

  18. um… few people that i know of are saying the the earth is going to be “destroyed”. what they _are_ saying is that our [humankind] ability to live on it will be dramatically …er… _challenged_, to say the least. so no, we will not destroy the earth. we will just make it near impossible for us to survive, let alone flourish…

    this isn’t _that_ hard of a concept to understand… is it?

    • sometimes its the simpliest of concepts that are the hardest to understand…

  19. Noah, schmoah. This guy doesn’t know his Bible.
    Revelation 8:7-12:
    “The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.
    And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood;
    And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed.
    And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters;
    And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.
    And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise.
    And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabiters of the earth by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound!”

    N.B. I’m told the Russian word for wormwood is…”chernobyl.” YMMV.

  20. Good grief. There is only Mother Nature and Father Time. Nuthin’ else to clutter your mind with…

  21. Who the hell cares what God said, he said jack all, man wrote that book and a bunch of idiots will let there own belief system screw the rest of us.

    Shameful.

  22. I like how he accepts the geologic time table that dinosaurs roamed the planet, and yet ignores the five plus mas extinction events that are recorded in the geologic time table. not to mention, I don’t think dinosaurs were pumping out CO2 that has been locking in the earths crust for millions of years.

  23. It’s the worst kind of cop out!: when things go wrong, it’s God’s will, not human fallibility, greed, criminality or corruption. How convenient for fraudulent bankers, warmongers and crooked politicians?

    • Right you are! And when you get the public to have the same attitude – well, it’s Gawd’s will; things will work out in the end – then you can do absolutely ANYTHING and they’ll shrub their shoulders, tighten their belts, and just take it, without question.

      The peasant mentality. A key component of feudalism, which the 21st Century Republican Party seems to be working to restore.

  24. none but the best to run the American Government. vote Republican and get this farce-by the Right over with. otherwise i hear, “Keep Sharia law out of our Government.” oh sorry, Sharia law Christian style is okay however.

  25. I think God was saying that HE wouldn’t flood the Earth and kill everyone with cataclysmic climates, He never said anything about stopping us from doing so!

  26. This makes no sense. He basically is saying that God is taking a hands off approach to how humans run the planet, and the scientists say that it’s the humans who are messing things up. So… he had no point?

  27. And not to excuse the idiot Congressmen) but * * * the CO2 and CH4 we put up there now will still be there for years and years, doing greenhouse duty, and unless some magic comes along, we cannot call it back. In other words, the ill effects come LONNNGGGG after the dirty deeds are done, and many people cannot believe in a tragedy of their own making which has so long a lead-time that they cannot “see” cause and effect.

    Same thing applies to over-population. A local drought can really be hard to take if you’ve built up the population on the assumption of continuous plenty (of drinking water, of food).

  28. The same Shimkus was involved in the Mark Foley congressional page scandal. Biblical family values, God’s ass. I remember optimistic “Daily Kos” liberals declaring Shimkus politically dead – but somehow he won prompt reelection in 2006 easily.

  29. Actually, the Bible prophesied the rise of the global-warming denial movement:

    (Proverbs 26:11) As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly.

  30. The congressman has forgotten another verse in Genesis: The one that says, “The Lord God took the man and put him in the garden of Eden to till and tend it.” Gen. 2:15. Adam and Eve were kicked out of the garden later in the story, but I haven’t found anything in the Bible to suggest that the command to “till and tend” was ever rescinded. We have a responsibility to the earth.

  31. Bible thumpers. Fantastic. This is why white collar crime is easy to get away with in this country. All the republicans have to do is thump the bible a few times and they can continue outsourcing, wage discrimination, pollution, funding cuts on education. I really find it difficult to politicians seriously when none of them stood up and told that guy to shut his pie hole.

  32. When God was promising that He will not cleanse the Earth through floods anymore, He didnt specify the other uncountable ways he could. The simplest and by far the most effective method is to get stupid people to office

  33. Sigh.
    Doesn’t surprise me in the least that an idiot like this is in a position of power.
    Stick to conservative fiscal policy and small government. Please.

    Lose the hocus-pocus. It just makes you look ridiculous. The freedom of speech is a wonderful thing – you have the freedom to make a complete joke of yourself on the house floor if you wish. I wouldn’t, but hey, you’re free to do it.

    And another pointed out – following up from the “infallible, perfect word of god” into talking about the age of the dinosaurs just made me facepalm.

  34. Who got the video yanked from YouTube?

    “This video has been removed as a violation of YouTube’s policy against spam, scams, and commercially deceptive content. “

    • Juan,

      Would you be willing to find why the video was pulled? Also, is there a non-partisan documentation (no commentary) of the congressman’s remarks -such as an official transcript- available that you might post.

      This matter matters, as the death of facts which apparently the congressman exemplifies in his style of argument also applies to the blogosphere, where the lack of objective data -or the overwhelming presence of data taken out of context or filtered through strong editorial judgment- itself contributes to undermining critical reasoning and the scientific method.

      Thank you in advance for what you find.

      • It is a clip from C-Span! The context is all there in the clip. YouTube was tricked into pulling it!

  35. A lonely God created mankind for his amusement. To make sure he wouldn’t be bored he created a couple of hundred absured and comic religions with all kinds of goofy beliefs which would compete with each other until the end of time, or until God decided He’d had enough. He made sure that they would all be very similar but, nevrthe less, find the most iname reasons to hate each other unto death. I don’t know if He is bothering to tune in, but if He is, He must be laughting His holy ass off at a fool like John Shimkus, and giggleing like hell that such an imbecile would be a “leader” in what’s supposed to be a great, modern country.

  36. How many people voted for a Representative in this district in 2008? And how many people voted for a representative in this district in 2010? And did people who
    voted for the D candidate last time come out and vote for Shimkus this time? Or did
    D voters from election 2008 not come out and vote this time? And if not, why not?
    Someone should take the time to ask all those millions of D-voters of 2008 who did not vote at all this time what their reasons for not voting were. Actual research would give us information which mere speculation can never yield. Since I voted, I am not qualified to say why the non-voters non-voted. They will have to be asked.

    One hopes that Shimkus is defeated for Chairman of the Energy Committee. But that is up to his fellow Republicans.

    Those states, cities, regions, etc.; which voted for Climate Change Realists in their own non-federal-level localities will just have to try crafting energy conservation policies and actions in their own areas in the teeth of ferocious federal resistance and obstruction against every effort to conserve energy and lower fossil carbon use. Perhaps commenters on this thread might offer some ideas and resources for helping people in the Blue Zones to de-fossilize the energy supply sources for economic activity
    within their own Blue Zones.

  37. A fine example of another brainwashed victim of blind faith foolishly spreading his Christian intellect on the fate of our only about 6,000 year old planet.

  38. My 12 year old has just pointed out that God, allegedly, told Noah that “He” would not destroy the earth. Now God does not speak for Man, who has not made any assurance that he, man, would not destroy the earth. S0 we are still in trouble.

    As for his 4000 parts per million CO2. Shimkus needs to research what sort of a world that was and where creatures were able to live and in what manner.

    If this nutcase manages to hold the reigns of energy policy it is highly probable that gas restraint will be run out of town, corn ethanol will be a budget casualty, biofuel development programmes will stall, it will be open season on Arctic oil exacerbating US/Russian tensions, and every other skerrick of fossil fuel will be hunted down to preserve squanderous oil consumption rates. So when oil supply finally drops away sharply in the face of steadily escalating global demand, permanent recession will set in.

    Brilliant performance outcome for democracy.

  39. If one is going to invoke Bibllical fairy tales, Genesis has God threatening that the one who eats from the tree of Knowledge will die “on the very day” (and no “clarification” about one day equaling a thousand years)…and yet the story claims that neither Adam or Eve died that day, but lived for centuries.

    So, what the Serpent said was closer to the truth. The human’s eyes WERE opened, they DID become like God (admitted by God himself), and they did NOT die that day, but had long, and very fruitful lives.

  40. autumnjade says:

    “….Oh yeah, he wasnt because he doesnt exist.”

    I hope you tell Him that when you meet Him on the Day of Judgement, my friend.

  41. I have been referring to the USA as the United CHRISTIAN States of America in my comments about bullshit like this. How did this brain-dead Christian Bible-Thumping FundaMENTAList get elected to Congress. Ok, I am Australian and we have some crazies in our Parliaments. The Leader of the Federal Opposition is a pain-in-the-ass Roman Catholic. However we do now have an ATHEIST Prime Minister. I doubt if the United Christian States of America will ever get an Atheist President. How can it when 94% of Americans believe in a fictitous “god” and 46% of those believe the World was “created” in six days beginning in the year 4004 BCE on October 3rd at 9:00AM.

    And this “Froot-Loop” member of Congress has to spew out readings from the Bible, the worst book of fiction ever written.

    America is being POISONED by Religion. It is suffering from a serious Pandemic – Mental Health Disease. It will son become a Third World Country.

    • Robert: The problem may or may not be too much religion. I am not religious, but in its place, dealing with its issues, it’s okay. Many of the folks who ran our country into the ground were of a libertarian ideology, and were worshipers of the Almighty God of Laissez-faire capitalism. They espoused religious tenets only to the point where that espousal kept them in power by the believers.

      That said, this video was a riot and definitely made my day.

  42. Too bad the rapture is a fairy tale. Wouldn’t it be nice to wake up tomorrow morning and find that all the wacko fundis had disappeared?

  43. Everytime Shimkus opens his mouth, something strange ( and not too intelligent) rolls off his tongue. Just watch him when he speaks on the House floor.
    No more floods, but it is prophesized in the Bible that the world will be destroyed by fire. Most pollution is rooted in combustion. Global conditions are changing due in large part due to man’s combustion activities. So Mr. Shimkus might do himself well to address the world’s predicted demise by fire and mankind’s use of it.

  44. The continued rise of the American Taliban… at least they are learning something from Afganistan.

  45. If ONLY people understood that this type of logic has been shown to be typical of spiritually IMMATURE people (the Faithful level* – the second out of four,) no one would have voted for this guy in the first place.

    *http://www.exploring-spiritual-development.com/The-Faithful.html

  46. Too funny! Now that’s the way to start a day! What a hearty laugh.

  47. Don’t pay attention to the bible reading. I’m sure Rep Skimkus doesn’t believe a word he says.

    Do pay attention to the almost subliminal message at the end of the clip where he talks briefly about Cap and Trade causing unemployment. This is how the Republicans get the lower working class to vote against its own best self interests.

    • ET Spoon, thank you for bring attention to what REALLY matters. It boggles the mind how they get the working class against itself.

  48. Has he heard about the rule of the land about separating church & state? Isn’t he in violation?

  49. It would be nice, just once, if we could get “lawmakers” who set themselves to govern, with the country’s best interests at heart rather than using fairy tales to “justify” their irresponsible and greedy mismanagement.
    Newsflash to the so-called “republican” so-called “party”: The root word of “conservative” is CONSERVE, not waste, not irresponsibility, and not “make excuses rooted in bullshit”

  50. As scary as this is.

    It is more scary to think how his view of the Bible would affect his view on foreign policy. Who is he willing to invade because he thinks his god is telling him to? Who will he be willing to vote for foreign aid for, because he thinks his god is telling him to do so? Which group of people will he insult, because he thinks his god is telling him to do so?

    As bad as his faith is when it comes to climate change, it scares me even more when his faith influences how he sees other nations and peoples.

  51. These guys are going to be in the history books as really really bad guys.
    Putting their faith above what anybody can see with the naked eye… leading to delays in mitigation efforts and thus many many deaths, and much suffering.
    Suffering right out of the worst parts of the bible.

  52. On the other hand, if these holier than thou bible thumpers would actually read the book, God said quite a few things..

    Genesis 9:12-13. And God said, “This is the sign of the covenant I am making between me and you and every living creature with you, a covenant for all generations to come: I have set my rainbow in the clouds, and it will he the sign of the covenant between me and the earth

    The land is mine and you are but aliens and my tenants. Throughout the country that you hold as a possession, you must provide for the redemption of the land. Lev. 25:23-24

    I brought you into a fertile land to eat its fruit and rich produce. But you came and defiled my land and you made my inheritance detestable. Jer. 2:7

    Ezekiel 34:17-18. As for you, my flock… Is it not enough for you to feed on good pasture? Must you also trample the rest of your pasture with your feet? Is it not enough for you to drink clear water? Must you also muddy the rest with your feet?

    Isaiah 24:4-6. The earth dries up and withers, the world languished and withers, the exalted of the earth languish. The earth lies under its inhabitants; for they have transgressed the laws, violated the statutes, and broken the everlasting covenant. Therefore a curse consumes the earth; its people must bear their guilt.

    Lev. 25:23-24. The land is mine and you are but aliens and my tenants. Throughout the country that you hold as a possession, you must provide for the redemption of the land.

    Jer. 2:7. I brought you into a fertile land to eat its fruit and rich produce. But you came and defiled my land and you made my inheritance detestable.

    Luke 16:2,10,13. And he called him and said to him, “What is this I hear about you? Give an account of your stewardship, for you can no longer be steward.
    He who is faithful in a very little thing is faithful also in much; and he who is unrighteous in a very little thing is unrighteous in much. You cannot serve both
    God and mammon.

    James 5:5. You have lived luxuriously on the earth and led a life of wanton pleasure; you have fattened your hearts in a day of slaughter.

    Mark 4:19. …and the worries of the world, and the deceitfulness of riches and the desires for other things enter in and choke the word and it becomes unfruitful.

    Revelation 11:18. The nations were angry and your wrath has come. The time has come for rewarding your servants the prophets and your saints and those who reverence your name, both small and great – and for destroying those who destroy the earth.

  53. Separation of Church and State, you say? That’s so 20th Century!
    However, in my childhood days (1940’s – 50’s) the Souther Baptist Church strongly believed in the Separation of Church and State. My pastor railed against the Pope as the Antichrist for that very reason. Little did I realize ……

  54. My comment exactly.

    Revelation 11:18 –
    The nations were filled with wrath, but now the time of your wrath has come. It is time to judge the dead and reward your servants the prophets, as well as your holy people, and all who fear your name, from the least to the greatest. It is time to destroy all who have caused destruction on the earth.”
    New Living Translation (©2007)

  55. I just wish these modern, “educated” people would pick up a more current book to base their decisions on instead of continually turning to a work of fiction that is 2,000 years old. This is a perfect example why there MUST be a seperation of church and state!

  56. Is there any way we can find out how much oil and gas stocks, board positions and land under oil and gas exploration the climate denying representatives own? And publish it?

  57. This guy deosn’t know what he’s talking about. God never said he wouldn’t destroy the world again. After the flood, he said he would never destroy the world with another flood. But, the New Testament clearly states in many places that the world will be destroyed, including the statement “The elements shall melt with fervent heat,” which has been interpreted by some to refer to nuclear holocost, but, now, it can also mean global warming, which makes fools of the deniers, and is the reason they’ll never recite that verse in the context of global warming. LOL
    Personally, I’m not a biblical literalist, I just hate when people misquote the Bible to support their ignorance…revealing their ignorance of the Bible, too. LOL

  58. Judging from the comments, the few of you that have read the bible don’t seem to understand it. This is making a mountain of a molehill.

    The issue isn’t climate change, it’s MAN MADE climate change. So far the science (mostly pseudoscience) cannot prove anything. Acting on the supposed CO2 problem will make Al Gore and other rich people even richer, but there’s no sound evidence that it will affect climate change in the slightest. The climate has always changed, and always will.

    • I don’t understand how you can make such statements about CO2 not being a major factor in man made climate change when the vast majority of climate experts worldwide disagree with you. The science is complex and the forecasts not exact. But to call it pseudo science demands proof. Please provide some.

      And if climate models are at all correct and governments chose to do nothing and no silver bullet technologies show up soon, then you had better tell you kids not to have kids. Cause the world will be hell. And when they ask you how you could ignore such overwhelming secular scientific opinion and modeling at a time when maybe something could have been done to mitigate it, you had better have a good answer. We aren’t talking about politics here, we are talking about the future of modern human society as we know it.

  59. No theological discussion has any right to be in any public proceeding. Theology is for church and academia, not government. As I’ve said repeatedly, America is a de facto theocracy. And that we’ve got politicians quoting 3000-year-old scripture as an argument against public policy in this industrial/technological age is a national embarrassment and a disgrace. And Americans wonder why the rest of the developed world thinks we’re rednecks!!

  60. Shimkus should have been taken to Pakistan & dropped off on a small Island during the massive flooding there few months back.

    His thinking might have been changed by seeing the amount of water!

  61. It is time for a credentials check on Mr. Shimkus. If he believes in Christian bible infallibility, and his bible supports slavery, then he cannot support the US Constitution so long as it contains the 13th Amendment abolishing slavery. But to hold his seat, he has either sworn or affirmed as follows:

    “I, John Shimkus, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. (So help me God.)”

    Mr. Shimkus’s bible says slavery is acceptable. The 13th Amendment says nay. Doesn’t this give rise to at least a mental reservation on his part?

    If his oath is false, he needs to be removed. Immediately! If he does not believe in biblical infallibility, then he needs to stop mouthing such drivel in the halls of Congress.

  62. In all my years – 58 – I can’t remember a more serious demonstration of legislative stupidity. Shimkus is straight out of the dark age of southern Illinois bible-thumping idiocy.

  63. WHAT? why is this guy *ALLOWED* to quote bible passages during a meeting about global warming. why is nobody *CALLING* him on this?

    why are they sitting there listening to him quote bible passages and saying everything’s going to be ok because he believes in a *GOD*

    are these people asleep? surely this is the wrong place for this?

  64. …and here we are…responding to something someone said about his faith while being part of another dream-state…that’s all these are, governments and religions are myths, myths that have outgrown their effectiveness for the common good, they serve no one but themselves…like any mass movement they, over time, have or will become polluted, perverted and convoluted by the shear weight of their own dogma…what the real shame of it all is that world-wide we have these institutions that we build to sustain us while killing off our support system, wouldn’t it be something if we could have faith in the laws of our support system but it’s too real for us, this dirt we stand on, it fulls our senses and our minds are free to wander to create institutions that will save us from the eat or be eaten fact of life…I don’t care what country (government?) you are from or what book(bible?) you read for guidance you are standing on sanity and fail to realize it, anything else is a self-imposed dream-state, a drug like thing to hide your fears within; be afraid gawd will kill you sinner, be afraid the government will kill you law breaker, be afraid…be afraid…be afraid…the big bad wolf is going to get you…the wolf, the state and the religion, in time, will dissolve, evolve into yet another form of the same thing while sanity beats softly under foot…

  65. To make jokes about such serious matter as the Climate change definitely is; is irrelevant. We are not talking about things that will happen in the next century, anything can take place in 5 years time or even sooner. And above all that is not religion issue, it is all about our behaviour about how we face the problem. Stop using your car for a one day or don’t turn on the light for a one night per week and you may see how it works…

  66. dajify, the conceptual problem with it being man-made climate change is that this would mean that what we do can have a greater effect than what God Has Promised.

    What they don’t realize is that God Promised to not destroy the world. It says nothing about not destroying civilization.

  67. Sweet! Bring it on! Lets use the Bible for all our laws and put into action all the rules of the Bible. First order of events is the stoning of all congressmen and senators who have cheated on their wives. Second the smiting of all representatives who have shorn their hair. And thats just a start. How do we start these bills? Who is with me?

  68. The dimensions of the Ark (tebah=box) describe a supersized cargo container, not a boat. The story of Noah and the flood is a weaving together of two primary strands of source material, “P” (Priestly) and “J” (Yahwist). P assumed the earth was a vault, a firmament, a living space surrounded by waters above and below and describes deluge so violent that it came near to ripping the fabric of existence. The J account says it rained for 40 days and nights. The post-flood promise was the divine talking to himself–a sort of, “Oops, maybe I overreacted.” Post-flood Noah and most of his family display symptoms of PTSD. (Whew! I can almost say it all in one breath!) Moreover, the authors, who borrowed elements of his story from surrounding cultures (Babylonian, Sumerian, etc.) never intended for the story to be taken as fact! They must be laughing their asses off at such foolishness.

  69. America is doooomed guys .He should read the small print on the bible ..it clearly say
    ….God is not going to bring no more flood.He didnt talk of man made flood thats a different story. So that mean we still could get a flood.

    The other funny thing is the girl sitting behind him….so funny her look when he first mentionned the bible….still she was trying to keep a straight face all the time…hihihihih…i wish i seen her when she went home…probably laughing her ass offf.

  70. When America eventually joins the third world clique, it wouldn’t be for any other reason apart from the proliferation of nitwits in her governing circles. NASA, American Academy of science & her entrepreneurship aren’t bigots. The question is: Isn’t it possible that a preponderance of Americans are actually morons? Only a nation of dick-heads would make a brain dead bozo like Bush president!

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