"After all, we are humans and we should not tolerate inhuman treatment of our species in the 21th century, whether in Xinjiang or anywhere else." Very true.
Yusuf al-Qaradawi, head of the Muslim Brotherhood and one of the most respected leaders of the Sunni world,
recently said on Egyptian television, "If they [Muslims] had gotten rid of the punishment for apostasy, Islam would not exist today". The most striking thing about his statement, however, was that it was not an apology ; rather it was a logical, proud justification for preserving the death penalty as a punishment for apostasy.
(see link to beforeitsnews.com ).
And the penalty for blasphemy? Adultery? Homosexuality? The same. What is wrong with this picture?
According to Asst Prof Beattie "But for the more aggressive in the extremists’ ranks, of whom there is no shortage... for the most zealous, it is a mitzva, or good deed, to kill such people." Could der professor cite evidence to support this claim?
Nathaniel below says the video is a fraud. I asked for some evidence of that.
As far as Morsi's view on domestic policy, he's already on record as giving final say on who has the right to be President (whether a Christian or woman could be) to clerics.
You can take the fanatic out of the mosque, but you can not take the fanatacism out of the fanatic. When the US dollar well runs dry, Morsi will reveal his true attitude about the continued existence of a Jewish homeland.
Wonder whether Morsi's public relations team worried about the impression he gives when joining in a prayer for the destruction of the Jews. Rev Wright....Where are you when we need you? link to memri.org
Only demagogues would argue that the beliefs of a nut case are symptomatic of a movement or point of view. To do so is a moronic effort to prove that those that condemn the Islamic ideoslogy as inherently violent are themselves violent and ipso facto wrong about Islam. The fact of the matter is that violence inheres in Islamic ideology and is mandated by Islamic scripture. This guy was a nut case whose beliefs are irrelevant to prove anything except perhaps that the apologists for Islam will make absolutely any idiotic arguments to avoid the immutable truth about the religion of peace.
"The Israeli military would shoot such intruders, innocent or otherwise."
Maziar.
"Well said Maziar"
Curt.
Well said? Does this statement of Maziar not indicate the least bit of bias? The left is now the new far right.
Fqailing to distinguish between these two incidents is either dishonest or ignorant journalism. In one case the act is in sync with social norms while in the other the actor would be generally considered an anti social boor. Why draw a paralell?
Islam together with sharia law constitutes an misogynistic, homophobic belief system that expressly denies equality of law to all non-Muslims and women. People refuse to acknowledge this for the same reason they believed the emperor had clothes. While the country burns in the flames of deficit spending politicians of all stripes fiddle with this GZ business.
Faced with the choice between changing one's mind and proving that there is no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the proof.
John Kenneth Galbraith
A regurgitation of what was known. So how do we, the US, translate the information/ intelligence reconfirmed by this quiz into foreign policy? I, for one,believe the US ought to withdraw asap from Iraq and Afghanistan. The reasons are numerous and should be self-evident by now to all but those of the "my country, right or wrong mentality" of the Vietnam war era. For me asap is a matter of weeks, not longer.
Let the various Sunni and Shia (and Taliban) factions struggle among themselves for control of the government.
We should redirect the money now wasted on maintaining our military involvment and supporting the Pakistani, Iraqi and Afghani governments into the development of energy policies to free ourselves from reliance on Mideast oil without losing sight of the problems caused by carbon emissions and the resulting changing climate.
Rapid withdrawl from Iraq and Afghanistan should give greater credibility to the US role in achieving a just resolution to the Israeli/Arab war which together with US abandonment from the other mideast hot spots should go a long way to undermining support for Islamic mujaheen and defusing Islamic oriented terrorism, at least, in the West. Such a resolution will require Israel to relinquish almost all land occupied as a result of the 1967 war. It may be appropriate to award disposessed Israelis eminent domain awards to facilitate relocation. Reparations should be provided for Arab refugees from Israel who abandoned real property as far back as the 1940s. Jerusalem should be governed as a city state like the Vatican.
So what else is new?
p.p.s. And from another of the"Founding Generations of Americans", John Quincy Adams, on Islam:
“Adopting from the sublime conception of the Mosaic law, the doctrine of one omnipotent God; he (Mahomet) connected indissolubly with it, the audacious falsehood, that he was himself his prophet and apostle. Adopting from the new Revelation of Jesus, the faith and hope of immortal life, and of future retribution, he humbled it to the dust by adapting all the rewards and sanctions of his religion to the gratification of the sexual passion. He poisoned the sources of human felicity at the fountain, by degrading the condition of the female sex, and the allowance of polygamy; and he declared undistinguishing and exterminating war, as a part of his religion, against all the rest of mankind. THE ESSENCE OF HIS DOCTRINE WAS VIOLENCE AND LUST; TO EXALT THE BRUTAL OVER THE SPIRITUAL PART OF HUMAN NATURE (Capitals in original)...Between these two religions, thus contrasted in their characters, a war of twelve hundred years has already raged. The war is yet flagrant...While the merciless and dissolute dogmas of the false prophet shall furnish motives to human action, there can never be peace upon earth, and good will towards men.”
He continues:
The precept of the koran is, perpetual war against all who deny, that Mahomet is the prophet of God. The vanquished may purchase their lives, by the payment of tribute; the victorious may be appeased by a false and delusive promise of peace; and the faithful follower of the prophet, may submit to the imperious necessities of defeat: but the command to propagate the Moslem creed by the sword is always obligatory, when it can be made effective. The commands of the prophet may be performed alike, by fraud, or by force.
And Adams concluded:
“As the essential principle of his [Muhammad’s] faith is the subjugation of others by the sword; it is only by force, that his false doctrines can be dispelled, and his power annihilated.”
References: Blunt, Joseph (1830), The American Annual Register for the Years 1827-8-9 (New York: E. & G.W. Blunt), 29:267-402, [On-line], URL: link to archive.org
"After all, we are humans and we should not tolerate inhuman treatment of our species in the 21th century, whether in Xinjiang or anywhere else." Very true.
Yusuf al-Qaradawi, head of the Muslim Brotherhood and one of the most respected leaders of the Sunni world,
recently said on Egyptian television, "If they [Muslims] had gotten rid of the punishment for apostasy, Islam would not exist today". The most striking thing about his statement, however, was that it was not an apology ; rather it was a logical, proud justification for preserving the death penalty as a punishment for apostasy.
(see link to beforeitsnews.com ).
And the penalty for blasphemy? Adultery? Homosexuality? The same. What is wrong with this picture?
According to Asst Prof Beattie "But for the more aggressive in the extremists’ ranks, of whom there is no shortage... for the most zealous, it is a mitzva, or good deed, to kill such people." Could der professor cite evidence to support this claim?
Nathaniel below says the video is a fraud. I asked for some evidence of that.
As far as Morsi's view on domestic policy, he's already on record as giving final say on who has the right to be President (whether a Christian or woman could be) to clerics.
You can take the fanatic out of the mosque, but you can not take the fanatacism out of the fanatic. When the US dollar well runs dry, Morsi will reveal his true attitude about the continued existence of a Jewish homeland.
Wonder whether Morsi's public relations team worried about the impression he gives when joining in a prayer for the destruction of the Jews. Rev Wright....Where are you when we need you?
link to memri.org
Only demagogues would argue that the beliefs of a nut case are symptomatic of a movement or point of view. To do so is a moronic effort to prove that those that condemn the Islamic ideoslogy as inherently violent are themselves violent and ipso facto wrong about Islam. The fact of the matter is that violence inheres in Islamic ideology and is mandated by Islamic scripture. This guy was a nut case whose beliefs are irrelevant to prove anything except perhaps that the apologists for Islam will make absolutely any idiotic arguments to avoid the immutable truth about the religion of peace.
"The Israeli military would shoot such intruders, innocent or otherwise."
Maziar.
"Well said Maziar"
Curt.
Well said? Does this statement of Maziar not indicate the least bit of bias? The left is now the new far right.
Fqailing to distinguish between these two incidents is either dishonest or ignorant journalism. In one case the act is in sync with social norms while in the other the actor would be generally considered an anti social boor. Why draw a paralell?
Islam together with sharia law constitutes an misogynistic, homophobic belief system that expressly denies equality of law to all non-Muslims and women. People refuse to acknowledge this for the same reason they believed the emperor had clothes. While the country burns in the flames of deficit spending politicians of all stripes fiddle with this GZ business.
Faced with the choice between changing one's mind and proving that there is no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the proof.
John Kenneth Galbraith
A regurgitation of what was known. So how do we, the US, translate the information/ intelligence reconfirmed by this quiz into foreign policy? I, for one,believe the US ought to withdraw asap from Iraq and Afghanistan. The reasons are numerous and should be self-evident by now to all but those of the "my country, right or wrong mentality" of the Vietnam war era. For me asap is a matter of weeks, not longer.
Let the various Sunni and Shia (and Taliban) factions struggle among themselves for control of the government.
We should redirect the money now wasted on maintaining our military involvment and supporting the Pakistani, Iraqi and Afghani governments into the development of energy policies to free ourselves from reliance on Mideast oil without losing sight of the problems caused by carbon emissions and the resulting changing climate.
Rapid withdrawl from Iraq and Afghanistan should give greater credibility to the US role in achieving a just resolution to the Israeli/Arab war which together with US abandonment from the other mideast hot spots should go a long way to undermining support for Islamic mujaheen and defusing Islamic oriented terrorism, at least, in the West. Such a resolution will require Israel to relinquish almost all land occupied as a result of the 1967 war. It may be appropriate to award disposessed Israelis eminent domain awards to facilitate relocation. Reparations should be provided for Arab refugees from Israel who abandoned real property as far back as the 1940s. Jerusalem should be governed as a city state like the Vatican.
So what else is new?
p.p.s. And from another of the"Founding Generations of Americans", John Quincy Adams, on Islam:
“Adopting from the sublime conception of the Mosaic law, the doctrine of one omnipotent God; he (Mahomet) connected indissolubly with it, the audacious falsehood, that he was himself his prophet and apostle. Adopting from the new Revelation of Jesus, the faith and hope of immortal life, and of future retribution, he humbled it to the dust by adapting all the rewards and sanctions of his religion to the gratification of the sexual passion. He poisoned the sources of human felicity at the fountain, by degrading the condition of the female sex, and the allowance of polygamy; and he declared undistinguishing and exterminating war, as a part of his religion, against all the rest of mankind. THE ESSENCE OF HIS DOCTRINE WAS VIOLENCE AND LUST; TO EXALT THE BRUTAL OVER THE SPIRITUAL PART OF HUMAN NATURE (Capitals in original)...Between these two religions, thus contrasted in their characters, a war of twelve hundred years has already raged. The war is yet flagrant...While the merciless and dissolute dogmas of the false prophet shall furnish motives to human action, there can never be peace upon earth, and good will towards men.”
He continues:
The precept of the koran is, perpetual war against all who deny, that Mahomet is the prophet of God. The vanquished may purchase their lives, by the payment of tribute; the victorious may be appeased by a false and delusive promise of peace; and the faithful follower of the prophet, may submit to the imperious necessities of defeat: but the command to propagate the Moslem creed by the sword is always obligatory, when it can be made effective. The commands of the prophet may be performed alike, by fraud, or by force.
And Adams concluded:
“As the essential principle of his [Muhammad’s] faith is the subjugation of others by the sword; it is only by force, that his false doctrines can be dispelled, and his power annihilated.”
References: Blunt, Joseph (1830), The American Annual Register for the Years 1827-8-9 (New York: E. & G.W. Blunt), 29:267-402, [On-line], URL: link to archive.org