"It is not the love of the poor that drives their agenda. It is the hatred of the rich."
Man, i read your comments on Libya with some interest. What a shame you felt the need to share your baseless prejudices about the left, it takes you down a notch. Im from a working class background, and have been a left voter all my life. Not because i hate the rich, but because i know from my own personal experience the real significance of politics for equality and social justice. Ive felt the effects of class inequality in my own skin! And also because i know that ultimately, more socially just societies benefit even the upper classes (read "The Spirit Level, Wilkinson and Pickett!).
And why should we expect political measures that benefit the poor from right wingers, when its against all they believe in? Maybe to avoid an imminent social revolution, but even then most righties are too stupid and ideologically blocked to read the cards, as history can tell.
Sounds like the perfect opportunity for the African Union to step in. Im sure they could get UN support for a peacekeeping action, if they would bother to do something.
You can find plenty of evidence of "democracy being a disposable construct" to capitalists also. The reason some leftists have a hard time admitting the legitimacy of the libyan rebellion is that it goes against their anti-imperialist instincts to admit that the US and its allies could be doing something good. And 99% of the time that instinct is correct.
Well, the violence has not escalated to libyan levels, yet. It could. Saud Arabia will probably never face a UN intervention, having US as its loyal ally. I dont know about Syria.
This is actually a very interesting point! Im a bit shocked by the kneejerk rejection to the UN intervention from the US left in general. Over here in Europe the discussion has been more nuanced.
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"It is not the love of the poor that drives their agenda. It is the hatred of the rich."
Man, i read your comments on Libya with some interest. What a shame you felt the need to share your baseless prejudices about the left, it takes you down a notch. Im from a working class background, and have been a left voter all my life. Not because i hate the rich, but because i know from my own personal experience the real significance of politics for equality and social justice. Ive felt the effects of class inequality in my own skin! And also because i know that ultimately, more socially just societies benefit even the upper classes (read "The Spirit Level, Wilkinson and Pickett!).
And why should we expect political measures that benefit the poor from right wingers, when its against all they believe in? Maybe to avoid an imminent social revolution, but even then most righties are too stupid and ideologically blocked to read the cards, as history can tell.
So why attack now when Khadaffi had been brought solidly into the western fold and applied serious neo-lib economic reforms?
Sounds like the perfect opportunity for the African Union to step in. Im sure they could get UN support for a peacekeeping action, if they would bother to do something.
You can find plenty of evidence of "democracy being a disposable construct" to capitalists also. The reason some leftists have a hard time admitting the legitimacy of the libyan rebellion is that it goes against their anti-imperialist instincts to admit that the US and its allies could be doing something good. And 99% of the time that instinct is correct.
Well, the violence has not escalated to libyan levels, yet. It could. Saud Arabia will probably never face a UN intervention, having US as its loyal ally. I dont know about Syria.
This is actually a very interesting point! Im a bit shocked by the kneejerk rejection to the UN intervention from the US left in general. Over here in Europe the discussion has been more nuanced.