The Supreme Court in "Citizens United" unchained the oligarchs and shackled the citizenry.* Only a new and wiser Supreme Court or a constitutional ammendment can correct this developement.
Also, the Latin word sinistra meant "left" as well as "unlucky" and this double meaning survives in European derivatives of Latin, and in the English word "sinister.'
Democracy is not built in a day. There will be some speed bumps and birth pangs along the way, but I am very high on the propects of Libyan democracy. I think progress will be much smoother than Iraq and Afganistan (obviously) or even Egypt. Do you see any likely major landmines along the way Prof. Cole? If so, what might they be.
You should read up on Thomas Paine. He was a great champion for human rights and equal rights even for woman and black people! No small feat for a man of the 18th century. He risked his life many times for speaking truth to power. He even publicly called out George Washington on his hypocrosy over slavery causing significant damage to his (Paine's) public standing.
Who else in history are we not allowed to admire. Don't be as nihilistic as your namesake.
To compare Gingrich to Goldwater is an insult to Goldwater. Also, to not vote for Obama, as imperfect as he is, makes you at least half as bad as those who will vote for Gingrich or Romney or any other random ignoramus/fascist.
"He received a B.A. in history from Emory University in Atlanta in 1965. He received an M.A. in 1968, and then a PhD in modern European history from Tulane University in New Orleans in 1971.[10] His dissertation was entitled "Belgian Education Policy in the Congo: 1945–1960". While at Tulane, Gingrich, who at the time belonged to no religious group, began attending the St. Charles Avenue Baptist Church to pursue an interest in the effect of religion on political theory; he was soon baptized by Rev. G. Avery Lee.[11] In 1970, Gingrich was appointed an Assistant Professor in the history department at West Georgia College (now the University of West Georgia) in Carrollton. In 1974 he moved to the geography department. While at West Georgia, Gingrich was instrumental in establishing an inter-disciplinary Environmental Studies program. He left at the end of the 1977–1978 academic year. He also taught a class, Renewing American Civilization, at Kennesaw State University (then called Kennesaw State College) in 1993.[12]" link to en.wikipedia.org
His dissertation was entitled "Belgian Education Policy in the Congo: 1945–1960" I am curious to read this. I would like to know what improvements the Belgians had made in their education policy since their war that shall not be mentioned.
Here is an article about the new Libyan PM el-Keeb and the direction he wants to take the new government. What are your thoughts Prof. Cole about The Tripoli Post as a reliable source? I find it interesting that the 3rd comment on this article is a job request.
The Berube article is well worth a read. Here is a taste:
It may be that some of the knee-jerk opposition to US involvement in Libya—that is, the kind that does not take into account the momentum from the revolutions in Tunisia and Egypt, or the support for NATO action by the Arab League and the United Nations—is an epiphenomenon of the left’s version of Obama Derangement Syndrome. In the U.S., ODS is especially pronounced among the “netroots,” where “progressive” bloggers vie to outdo each other in the agonies of their disappointment in and/or the virulence of their disdain for Obama’s presidency. (Last I looked, they had moved on from determining that Obama is worse than Bush, and had begun deliberations as to whether he is the worst president in U.S. history—though one of the more restrained frontpagers at FireDogLake did say, in July 2011, “I’m not ready to crown Barack Obama the Worst President Ever just yet.”) Often based (quite plausibly) on Obama’s various compromises with Republicans and conservative Democrats over health care and the budget, or his collapses on civil liberties, and often led (rather less plausibly) by partisans of Hillary Clinton, who have apparently decided to take her loss in the 2008 Democratic primaries as an occasion for building an alternate reality in which she is somewhere to the left of Eugene V. Debs (and secretly a hardened opponent of the administration in which she serves), Obama Derangement Syndrome is not specifically about foreign policy. It does, however, allow American leftists to cheer on the Arab Spring while denouncing Obama’s, and the international community’s, attempt to support its expression in Libya."
Well, Mr Perry doesn't understand American relations either so this should not come as a surprise to anyone. He is the candidate for people who think George W. was too intellectual and not Jesusy enough.
I think it's been about a dozen years Joe. On a side note, anyone who thinks it's in Obama's political interest to go to war with Iran doesn't know American politics. He would lose half his Democrat base a gain zero conservative support. See: LBJ, Vietnam et al and also reality.
"What he conveniently omits are the overtly belligerent statements from Obama administration officials – including Obama himself – in the wake of the as yet unproven “Iranian Assassination Plot.”
You mean the statement that it was a "criminal matter" and the deafening silence about the case since then? Is that what you are referring to? It's "yet unproven" because there hasn't been a trial or plea agreement yet. This is not surprising under a system of law.
This standard was created on Jan. 20 2009. The standard that drone strikes must be announced in advance, each one must be approved by congress, and the public at large . . . . WTF are you talking about?
It's a vague statement of principle. I have been thinking about filing a federal lawsuit myself because my rights to a "pursuit of happiness" have been continuously violated lately.
I have been reading comments about Libya at the NYT, Salon, Politico and so on. Knees are jerking wildly to the left and the right. I thought I would make a few points here because this is a more intelligent and civilized forum.
1. OIL: This was not about oil, we could have bought K'Daffy's* oil any time we wanted. Yes, there will soon be oil contracts signed. The Libyans want to increase production and why shouldn't they. This is not a case of western imperialists trying to steal their oil, Lyndsey Graham excepted. Contracts will be signed on the Libyans terms and what is wrong with that.
2. "WE DON"T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS NEW GOVERNMENT!" Correction: You don't know anything and you don't care to learn. Look up their interim constitution and read their bios. We have been working closely with them for many months and based on the their words and actions so far, they seem to have their heads on straight. Also, the whole "Arabs aren't ready for democracy" thing smacks of racism.
Caveat: The future is always uncertain but because of the way this uprising played out, I think the Libyans have a much better chance at having a stable democracy in a few years than either Iraq or Afghanistan. So far, I am optimistic.
Exactly right super390, the new Libyan government should set up some type of oil revenue sharing plan similar to what we have had in Alaska these past 30 years. However, I am not sure this will stop conservatives (Palin incuded) from calling it evil soshalamism.
My thought also. Could the plot have been intended to fail in order to ramp up tensions between Iran and the U.S. and Iran and Saudi Arabia? If so, who had motive and who benefits?
Questions:
1: Is there a presidential candidate that will represent
the 99′ers and prevent economic collapse and anarchy?
[The only one on the scene with any chance of doing that is Obama. He may succeed or fail, but anyone else has the goal of failing.
2: Would Ron Paul truly represent the 99′ers?
Or would he just become another puppet or puppeteer?
[What are you talking about? He already supports the 1%, that is his religion, the 99% are moochers who deserve to die so sayeth Ayn Rand. If you think Ron or Rand Paul give a shit about the middle class you are a fool.]
Ideally, he should have been arrested and put on trial for treason. A rare and difficult charge to prove but in his case I think, an open and shut case. Perhaps "treason in absentia" was the way to go but absentia trial have there own potential for abuse.
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"voted also for" should be changed to "supported" in above comment.
The "forced rape" language was taken out of the final version of the bill but both Ryan and Akin voted also for the earlier version. (sorry no link)
The Supreme Court in "Citizens United" unchained the oligarchs and shackled the citizenry.* Only a new and wiser Supreme Court or a constitutional ammendment can correct this developement.
*No, this is not a racist comment.
Also, the Latin word sinistra meant "left" as well as "unlucky" and this double meaning survives in European derivatives of Latin, and in the English word "sinister.'
Ergo, Bach-mann = sinister one
WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!
Democracy is not built in a day. There will be some speed bumps and birth pangs along the way, but I am very high on the propects of Libyan democracy. I think progress will be much smoother than Iraq and Afganistan (obviously) or even Egypt. Do you see any likely major landmines along the way Prof. Cole? If so, what might they be.
You should read up on Thomas Paine. He was a great champion for human rights and equal rights even for woman and black people! No small feat for a man of the 18th century. He risked his life many times for speaking truth to power. He even publicly called out George Washington on his hypocrosy over slavery causing significant damage to his (Paine's) public standing.
Who else in history are we not allowed to admire. Don't be as nihilistic as your namesake.
To compare Gingrich to Goldwater is an insult to Goldwater. Also, to not vote for Obama, as imperfect as he is, makes you at least half as bad as those who will vote for Gingrich or Romney or any other random ignoramus/fascist.
Barney Frank responds to Newt at the link. I love this Frank guy, in a completely heterosexual manner of course.
link to google.com
Meanwhile Herman Cain is concerned about Taliban forces in Libya.
link to youtube.com
They are extra-legal which makes them like legal only super-sized.
I'm sorry, who the hell does their dissertation in 1971 on “Belgian Education Policy in the Congo: 1945–1960″ WTF!
"He received a B.A. in history from Emory University in Atlanta in 1965. He received an M.A. in 1968, and then a PhD in modern European history from Tulane University in New Orleans in 1971.[10] His dissertation was entitled "Belgian Education Policy in the Congo: 1945–1960". While at Tulane, Gingrich, who at the time belonged to no religious group, began attending the St. Charles Avenue Baptist Church to pursue an interest in the effect of religion on political theory; he was soon baptized by Rev. G. Avery Lee.[11] In 1970, Gingrich was appointed an Assistant Professor in the history department at West Georgia College (now the University of West Georgia) in Carrollton. In 1974 he moved to the geography department. While at West Georgia, Gingrich was instrumental in establishing an inter-disciplinary Environmental Studies program. He left at the end of the 1977–1978 academic year. He also taught a class, Renewing American Civilization, at Kennesaw State University (then called Kennesaw State College) in 1993.[12]"
link to en.wikipedia.org
His dissertation was entitled "Belgian Education Policy in the Congo: 1945–1960" I am curious to read this. I would like to know what improvements the Belgians had made in their education policy since their war that shall not be mentioned.
If the wont follow the King James Bible like Jesus intended, then whose fault is that?
Jesus was a white European as is Santa Clause. Everyone else knows this, why don't you?
Palestinians are like Mexicans and therefore not real Christians.
Gingrich doesn't believe 90% of what he says. he is almost as bad as Romney. Newt is just pandering to the christianists in the Republican base.
You mean "he ran for Ted Kennedy’s Senate seat in 1994 as a pro-choice Republican, who promised that he would be better on gay rights than Kennedy.
Here is an article about the new Libyan PM el-Keeb and the direction he wants to take the new government. What are your thoughts Prof. Cole about The Tripoli Post as a reliable source? I find it interesting that the 3rd comment on this article is a job request.
link to tripolipost.com
The Berube article is well worth a read. Here is a taste:
It may be that some of the knee-jerk opposition to US involvement in Libya—that is, the kind that does not take into account the momentum from the revolutions in Tunisia and Egypt, or the support for NATO action by the Arab League and the United Nations—is an epiphenomenon of the left’s version of Obama Derangement Syndrome. In the U.S., ODS is especially pronounced among the “netroots,” where “progressive” bloggers vie to outdo each other in the agonies of their disappointment in and/or the virulence of their disdain for Obama’s presidency. (Last I looked, they had moved on from determining that Obama is worse than Bush, and had begun deliberations as to whether he is the worst president in U.S. history—though one of the more restrained frontpagers at FireDogLake did say, in July 2011, “I’m not ready to crown Barack Obama the Worst President Ever just yet.”) Often based (quite plausibly) on Obama’s various compromises with Republicans and conservative Democrats over health care and the budget, or his collapses on civil liberties, and often led (rather less plausibly) by partisans of Hillary Clinton, who have apparently decided to take her loss in the 2008 Democratic primaries as an occasion for building an alternate reality in which she is somewhere to the left of Eugene V. Debs (and secretly a hardened opponent of the administration in which she serves), Obama Derangement Syndrome is not specifically about foreign policy. It does, however, allow American leftists to cheer on the Arab Spring while denouncing Obama’s, and the international community’s, attempt to support its expression in Libya."
Of course, rank ignorance has never been a disqualification before.
Well, Mr Perry doesn't understand American relations either so this should not come as a surprise to anyone. He is the candidate for people who think George W. was too intellectual and not Jesusy enough.
I think it's been about a dozen years Joe. On a side note, anyone who thinks it's in Obama's political interest to go to war with Iran doesn't know American politics. He would lose half his Democrat base a gain zero conservative support. See: LBJ, Vietnam et al and also reality.
Would this be the same Ike who supported the overthrow of Mossadeq in 1953?
I request that posters provide evidence for their assertions. A link would be nice also.
"What he conveniently omits are the overtly belligerent statements from Obama administration officials – including Obama himself – in the wake of the as yet unproven “Iranian Assassination Plot.”
You mean the statement that it was a "criminal matter" and the deafening silence about the case since then? Is that what you are referring to? It's "yet unproven" because there hasn't been a trial or plea agreement yet. This is not surprising under a system of law.
This standard was created on Jan. 20 2009. The standard that drone strikes must be announced in advance, each one must be approved by congress, and the public at large . . . . WTF are you talking about?
"More people have been assassinated (together with friends and family, all without legality) under Obama than any other president in history."
Care to back up your wild assertion with any evidence?
It's a vague statement of principle. I have been thinking about filing a federal lawsuit myself because my rights to a "pursuit of happiness" have been continuously violated lately.
What are the pros and cons of a "Persian Spring" and what if anything can/should be done to encourage it?
I have been reading comments about Libya at the NYT, Salon, Politico and so on. Knees are jerking wildly to the left and the right. I thought I would make a few points here because this is a more intelligent and civilized forum.
1. OIL: This was not about oil, we could have bought K'Daffy's* oil any time we wanted. Yes, there will soon be oil contracts signed. The Libyans want to increase production and why shouldn't they. This is not a case of western imperialists trying to steal their oil, Lyndsey Graham excepted. Contracts will be signed on the Libyans terms and what is wrong with that.
2. "WE DON"T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS NEW GOVERNMENT!" Correction: You don't know anything and you don't care to learn. Look up their interim constitution and read their bios. We have been working closely with them for many months and based on the their words and actions so far, they seem to have their heads on straight. Also, the whole "Arabs aren't ready for democracy" thing smacks of racism.
Caveat: The future is always uncertain but because of the way this uprising played out, I think the Libyans have a much better chance at having a stable democracy in a few years than either Iraq or Afghanistan. So far, I am optimistic.
* I prefer the Warner Brothers spelling.
50 yrs not 30.
Exactly right super390, the new Libyan government should set up some type of oil revenue sharing plan similar to what we have had in Alaska these past 30 years. However, I am not sure this will stop conservatives (Palin incuded) from calling it evil soshalamism.
My thought also. Could the plot have been intended to fail in order to ramp up tensions between Iran and the U.S. and Iran and Saudi Arabia? If so, who had motive and who benefits?
If you believe that Jesus is the Christ, you are a Christian full stop.
Questions:
1: Is there a presidential candidate that will represent
the 99′ers and prevent economic collapse and anarchy?
[The only one on the scene with any chance of doing that is Obama. He may succeed or fail, but anyone else has the goal of failing.
2: Would Ron Paul truly represent the 99′ers?
Or would he just become another puppet or puppeteer?
[What are you talking about? He already supports the 1%, that is his religion, the 99% are moochers who deserve to die so sayeth Ayn Rand. If you think Ron or Rand Paul give a shit about the middle class you are a fool.]
Digbydolden is part of the problem. Get your head out of your ass digby.
The human sacrifice part was about the whole christian crucifiction thing I gather.
Doesn't linking to wirrled nuts daily automatically destroy any argument you might have been making?
Ideally, he should have been arrested and put on trial for treason. A rare and difficult charge to prove but in his case I think, an open and shut case. Perhaps "treason in absentia" was the way to go but absentia trial have there own potential for abuse.