We need more Jack Londons on the Left, and fewer Juan Cole's excusing capitalists, claiming that studies don't show immigration has harmed wages of the US worker. Here's good source work.
I don't agree with Prof Cole's multicult perspective, but I hope the Prof gets my drift when I say Breivick went off the rail when he allowed "ex" Cultural Marxists like David Horowitz instruct him tactically on how to fight "Cultural Marxism."
The only "radical Christian" tendencies afoot in the U.S. are those of "Christian Zionism," technical theological name
"dispensational premillenialism." It even infects non- millenial Lutheranism, as when Michelle Bachmann violates
her Church's doctrines by throwing an aura of divine prophetic mysticism around Israel.
But the premise that Christ needs European Jews with limited
association with Ancient Israelites to dispossess Palestinians in order to Himself return, strikes me as
outside the bounds of the most hardline Traditional forms of Christianity--because it is.
Just a note to let Prof Cole know that AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE
magazine's opposition to the Libyan intervention, (as it officially also outbid Cole in its formal opposition to the Iraqi War) does not represent "libertarian" opposition nearly as much as it represents authentic populist-right, Buchananite or better, TRADITIONAL (non neocon i.e. Israeli-owned) CONSERVATIVE opposition....
Thanks for the details about Iraq's political balance but in truth, even if Iran would move in, the US has less business attempting to stop it than Iran would have doing it.
Since the majority of Shias who despised Saddam,even though grateful, also believe the US had no business overthrowing him, you can expect after the US further botched defending against hypothetical Iranian intrusion, the majority Shias would have the same resentful negative view.
Bluntly, also, the Arab street and the Iranian street
generally assume the Zionist Lobby has complete control over US Mideast policy. They see both Dems and Repubs swarm Netanyahu in preference to Obama and they hear Abbas claim that Obama himself reneged on agreeements to him in favor of Israel.
To the Arab and Iranian street, the US government is scrambling and zig zagging policy since the onset of the Arab Spring, to do what's best to protect Israel.
The street always immersed in conspiracy theory exagerrates the power balance in the US political class-but only slightly.
Thus, any Iraqi government which is viewed by its populace as manipulating to keep US troops beyond the status of forces agreement can easily be accused of being a puppet government, with considerable insurgent violence destabilzing it until US troops finally leave, if only
because the US economy finally collapses and no dollars are left for Empire. Which Arabs and Muslims view, in effect, as
the American-Israeli Empire.
The present power elite, all told and considered, believes in Mideast intervention more than it believed then in the Vietnam War or the domino theory, so what surprises Prof Cole does not surprise me.
The real America First position was advocated by conservative nationalist Buchanan who has said ---since the wall came down--- NATO should be and should have been disbanded.
I hope that super390 understands that a plutocracy which represented "White" interests would not have outsourced
white working-middle class jobs enmasse in the first place.
"at least one source has compared them to Baha'is, Babis, Bektashis, Ahmadis, and "similar groups that have arisen within the Muslim community", and declared that "it has always been the consensus of the Muslim Ulama, both Sunni and Shi'i, that the Nusayri Alawi are kuffar unbelievers and mushrikun polytheists."
I would guess that since the development of Alawism,particularly until the initiation of Syrian Baathist rule, the authority quoted is probably correct as regards the Shia Ulama consensus.
As obama implyed in his nobel speech, a perfectly peaceful world would be nice, however we do have to look at the world as it is and recognise force is sometimes necessary for the greater good.
And even if the dominant street majority of Afghanis and Iraqis don't understand or appreciate it, the US must stay,
and impose its "peace," killing innocents as well as any other native resistors until the streets understand what is good for them.
An Afghani was quoted as saying he sees no difference in US troops and the Florida minister. Beetrayus should have resigned long ago were he a patriot and not a careerist and drone bombing overlord.
In line with Arnold Evans' remarks, Jim Lehrer asked Joe Biden yesterday (check the transcript) if Mubarek was a dictator. Biden answered, no, since he did America's and Israel's bidding, roughly to the best of his ability. This is the neolib definition of "freedom," indistinguishable from the neocon and of course not even masking well the fact that the US government's foreign policy is corrupt to the core.
Bliar the war criminal representing Christian ethics? Someone must have wanted the outcome rigged...like the intelligence was manipulated to justify the pre-ordained invasion.
Thanks Rick. I'm aware of much of the history, and not that you were disagreeing, but if an eschatology originated in the 19th century, it's still "modernist." I guess some of my thrust was also, opaquely, the U.S. policy has caused more problems for Arab Christians in the past 50 years than Rome. Although when JP 2 directly contradicted a turn of the century Pope in saying that the "land promise" of the Abrahamic Covenant was still in effect and the Jews thence had claim to Palestine, it made me wonder if the Traditionalist sedevacantists are right.
Traditional Catholics will tell you the Vatican Two liberalizations, among them
untraditional sympathy for Zionism, have done plenty of harm to Arab Christians.
But left wing modernist Protestant "Christian Zionism" (dispensationalism,)
itself popular chiefly in Britain and America, has done much more harm.
link to cis.org
We need more Jack Londons on the Left, and fewer Juan Cole's excusing capitalists, claiming that studies don't show immigration has harmed wages of the US worker. Here's good source work.
I don't agree with Prof Cole's multicult perspective, but I hope the Prof gets my drift when I say Breivick went off the rail when he allowed "ex" Cultural Marxists like David Horowitz instruct him tactically on how to fight "Cultural Marxism."
The only "radical Christian" tendencies afoot in the U.S. are those of "Christian Zionism," technical theological name
"dispensational premillenialism." It even infects non- millenial Lutheranism, as when Michelle Bachmann violates
her Church's doctrines by throwing an aura of divine prophetic mysticism around Israel.
But the premise that Christ needs European Jews with limited
association with Ancient Israelites to dispossess Palestinians in order to Himself return, strikes me as
outside the bounds of the most hardline Traditional forms of Christianity--because it is.
Just a note to let Prof Cole know that AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE
magazine's opposition to the Libyan intervention, (as it officially also outbid Cole in its formal opposition to the Iraqi War) does not represent "libertarian" opposition nearly as much as it represents authentic populist-right, Buchananite or better, TRADITIONAL (non neocon i.e. Israeli-owned) CONSERVATIVE opposition....
Prof Cole
Thanks for the details about Iraq's political balance but in truth, even if Iran would move in, the US has less business attempting to stop it than Iran would have doing it.
Since the majority of Shias who despised Saddam,even though grateful, also believe the US had no business overthrowing him, you can expect after the US further botched defending against hypothetical Iranian intrusion, the majority Shias would have the same resentful negative view.
Bluntly, also, the Arab street and the Iranian street
generally assume the Zionist Lobby has complete control over US Mideast policy. They see both Dems and Repubs swarm Netanyahu in preference to Obama and they hear Abbas claim that Obama himself reneged on agreeements to him in favor of Israel.
To the Arab and Iranian street, the US government is scrambling and zig zagging policy since the onset of the Arab Spring, to do what's best to protect Israel.
The street always immersed in conspiracy theory exagerrates the power balance in the US political class-but only slightly.
Thus, any Iraqi government which is viewed by its populace as manipulating to keep US troops beyond the status of forces agreement can easily be accused of being a puppet government, with considerable insurgent violence destabilzing it until US troops finally leave, if only
because the US economy finally collapses and no dollars are left for Empire. Which Arabs and Muslims view, in effect, as
the American-Israeli Empire.
The present power elite, all told and considered, believes in Mideast intervention more than it believed then in the Vietnam War or the domino theory, so what surprises Prof Cole does not surprise me.
The real America First position was advocated by conservative nationalist Buchanan who has said ---since the wall came down--- NATO should be and should have been disbanded.
I hope that super390 understands that a plutocracy which represented "White" interests would not have outsourced
white working-middle class jobs enmasse in the first place.
link to amconmag.com
Prof Cole, is this the clean cut exit from Iraq to which you have been periodically referring? When is the US really going to be OUT of Iraq.
from wiki on Alawites.
"at least one source has compared them to Baha'is, Babis, Bektashis, Ahmadis, and "similar groups that have arisen within the Muslim community", and declared that "it has always been the consensus of the Muslim Ulama, both Sunni and Shi'i, that the Nusayri Alawi are kuffar unbelievers and mushrikun polytheists."
I would guess that since the development of Alawism,particularly until the initiation of Syrian Baathist rule, the authority quoted is probably correct as regards the Shia Ulama consensus.
Alawites might have been declared Shias by government-appointed clergy, but deification of Ali is outside Shiism.
Dmol
As obama implyed in his nobel speech, a perfectly peaceful world would be nice, however we do have to look at the world as it is and recognise force is sometimes necessary for the greater good.
And even if the dominant street majority of Afghanis and Iraqis don't understand or appreciate it, the US must stay,
and impose its "peace," killing innocents as well as any other native resistors until the streets understand what is good for them.
Nato should have been dismantled after the end of the Cold War. It's mainly an adjunct of American Empire anyway.
An Afghani was quoted as saying he sees no difference in US troops and the Florida minister. Beetrayus should have resigned long ago were he a patriot and not a careerist and drone bombing overlord.
In line with Arnold Evans' remarks, Jim Lehrer asked Joe Biden yesterday (check the transcript) if Mubarek was a dictator. Biden answered, no, since he did America's and Israel's bidding, roughly to the best of his ability. This is the neolib definition of "freedom," indistinguishable from the neocon and of course not even masking well the fact that the US government's foreign policy is corrupt to the core.
Is Louise the resident Zionist lite? McCain and Clinton would be little if any more pro-Israel in actual deed than Obama has been.
Bliar the war criminal representing Christian ethics? Someone must have wanted the outcome rigged...like the intelligence was manipulated to justify the pre-ordained invasion.
Once again the Prof excuses imperialism in action.
The there are the possible free trade deals the authentic left and protectionist right are warning about.
Thanks Rick. I'm aware of much of the history, and not that you were disagreeing, but if an eschatology originated in the 19th century, it's still "modernist." I guess some of my thrust was also, opaquely, the U.S. policy has caused more problems for Arab Christians in the past 50 years than Rome. Although when JP 2 directly contradicted a turn of the century Pope in saying that the "land promise" of the Abrahamic Covenant was still in effect and the Jews thence had claim to Palestine, it made me wonder if the Traditionalist sedevacantists are right.
Rick Best
Traditional Catholics will tell you the Vatican Two liberalizations, among them
untraditional sympathy for Zionism, have done plenty of harm to Arab Christians.
But left wing modernist Protestant "Christian Zionism" (dispensationalism,)
itself popular chiefly in Britain and America, has done much more harm.