there's an amazingly hopeful concurrence of opinion from both sides once one escapes from the media control of AIPAC and the 'born-again' x-ian zionists...
"This policy can only be called fascist and it recalls the worst kind of medical experiments on human beings and social engineering of the mass political movements of the 1930s."
surely you are forgetting AIPAC and Co. own the copyright on such discussions!
it would be interesting to read your 'why' as to the Russian and Chinese support of Assad & Co. and where you see that going. Have I missed in your archive, or ?
If one looks carefully at the photos of the Salafist backers of Morsi... they seem all to have scars on their foreheads from abrassion of pounding their heads on prayer mats... perhaps not s good sign of liberal thinking. Check it out for yourselves!
One wonders the Israelis can not see, once again, their blind stupidity and arrogance... the shear arrogance of being self-proclaimed 'God's Chosen' as a perpetual source of so called 'Anti-Semitism'...
Personally, I am no fan of the Islamification of this part of Eurabia [Berlin / Scandinavia] but the Jewish mentality 'takes the cake'! QED
Thank you for the clip of my [also sadly] old MIT professor!
How long must the US population submit to being blackmailed by AIPAC & Co.?
Has BHO a bit more freedom of [in- ? :-(] action now?
Hmmm... as a US ex-pat resident of choice in former 'East-Berlin', [having fled the US 10 years ago] and now living on the edge of still extant parts of 'the Wall', one can not but wonder at the lack of perception of these new fascist US 'Wall-Builders'... lotsa luck, if it's not already too late.
Those advocating blockade, which really bears most on the least affluent, should reflect upon the results of the [primarily] British driven blockade of Germany after WWi and what it led to politically within 10 years... [some would call it 'The Holocaust']
I've been reading 'Mormon America' and am fascinated by the parallels between Founders Smith and Young and Mohammed: Multiple wives, mysterious unverifiable 'divine revelation' of a book they must write down [transcribe] and marriage to 'women',,, er, girls... of 12 and 14 years age...
Reverting to a prior post... why not a drone with Assad's name on it? Really! It would save a lot of lives... possibly... and it's hard to see the 'downside'...
Possibly wrong, but don't I remember CITGO being a Venezuelan company today [ayup, the same CITGO as that great historically protected neon sign in Boston] and an active provider of home heating oil at reduced prices for New Englanders under a Kennedy family initiative? Is this a baby to be thrown out with the bath water?
Here the young Turk and Arab Muslim women, often direct-imported cousins are, just as their Haredim/Halakah and Born-again Christian counterparts, denied birth control... so the most common sight is a pregnant woman in her 20's, in Naqib, trundling a 'doublewide' baby carriage. And no self-respecting male of her family would consider it within his dignity to help her! QED
we're already seeing the 'end-time' here in Germany. A hundred yards from my 'house' here in 'the East' is the old wall line. It's now the southern border of the largest zone of 'EUrabia'... dominated by Turks and Arabs, complete with their own gang systems, mini 'mosquettes', and their apartment balconies readily identifiable by the satellite dishes.
The rest of us either use the 'net or TV. But there was a quirk case of German constitutional law [something to do with history makes a lot of German law 'über-P.C.'] that all residents were entitled to receive news in their native language. The unfortunate results is the lack of acculturation [as noted previously] of the kids arriving in the public schools from Islamic families, were the mother is not permitted out of the house on her own, has no contact with the culture or language of her residential country, and thus can not prepare her kids for a successful participation in the place they live.
The kids are therefore last in line for jobs, other than Halal fast food service, for which they might otherwise qualify. This leads to anger and frustration. Plus, not to mention, no access to their peer group women, and no tolerance of homosexual relatonships either.
'The West' thought in the late 60's the best source of cheap labor to replace a population of young workers decimated in the war was Turkey. Now into the 3rd - and willfully unitegratable generation as noted.
I moved here from Andover, MA where about 1/3 of our Unitarian Congregation was of 'Reform' heritage... a group that would not be counted on as 'Jews' in Israel... hence no rights a citizens... add in the 'Conservative' Jews, same 'not welcome'...
Then Juan your statistics on the make-up of school age populations is a certain 'deal-breaker' for the young families in US/Canada featured in the rather 'numb' ads: who would want to take their young kids and subject them to such a class make-up... a terrible learning situation [please don't be offended, Juan] that we see here as the 'white' families of young school age kids are increasingly pulling them out of schools overrun with students of 'non-German' [euphemism for Turk and Arab kids who can't learn as they do not have the basic language and cultural skills of the community where they live]... The same would obtain in Israel. Who wants to use their kids as 'Guinea Pigs'?
But to push this one degree further, even the Israeli Haredim's right-flank will not participate in the responsibilities of citizenship when there, and the 'trouble-makers' in Brooklyn consider Aliyah 'unclean'... go figure!
Ah, the ways to 'shoot-one's-self-in-the-foot' as a society, perfected by Israel's ever more reactionary leadership and legislation.
Without a doubt, the most 'pushy' arrogant, 'chip-on-the-shoulder' tourists here in Berlin [and living in 'Mitte' we're overrun with tourists, so have a sound comparative 'base'... are without a doubt the Israelis. QED
Most frightening is the 'militarization' of the so-called SWAT and 'riot' police in the USA which are being used in suppression of dissent [O.W.S.] only a few steps behind Egypt and Syria [both using US supplied equipment BTW]...
Elect the Republican candidate and kiss your --- [remaining constitutional freedoms] 'Good by'
Footnote: I recently completed re-reading John dosPassos 'USA'... and one sees little has changed in the internal use of repressive power in the USA in 100 years!
So now I move on to Jack London's 'Iron Heel'... 'Le plus ce change, le plus ca rest la meme'
Interesting comment to one whose PEI dad fought in the Canadian Army in WWI and [correctly] always believed Canada [and the US] were on the wrong side in that one... [reflect a bit on the meanings and possibilities of that]...
The current ever farther right government in Ottawa is as hell-bend as ever a Bush was...
@ william james martin
Thanks for the lucid timeline!
Nice to see a civilized, not totally polarized discussion forming, that is more reasoned as in TNR and not the 'he said, she said' of HAARETZ.
@ Juan
Thanks for the forum, on-line feed-back notices *** and the active participation!
Can you, hopefully, provide documentation of how the 91 congressmen's expenses to/from/in Israel were paid for... THAT would be incredibly effective journalism... good hunting!
'Crowd control' equipment all paid for and supplied by the US as price for making nice with Israel, the elephant in the room, and for unimpeded access to Suez Canal and Egypt's airspace...
... and in an over-populated world where Muslims, 'Born-Again' Christians and Othodox Jews 'breed like rabbits', and Roman Catholics are close behind?
Let's support birth PREVENTION, and solve the problem at the source!
@markf... I would respectively suggest also following:
http://www.jstreet.org
there's an amazingly hopeful concurrence of opinion from both sides once one escapes from the media control of AIPAC and the 'born-again' x-ian zionists...
"This policy can only be called fascist and it recalls the worst kind of medical experiments on human beings and social engineering of the mass political movements of the 1930s."
surely you are forgetting AIPAC and Co. own the copyright on such discussions!
A timely post and please see this week's New Yorker:
link to newyorker.com
Inshallah!
We had a group here in the 30's that met the same description...also wore funny brown military garb...
"they are small and fanatical and powerless, terrorizing people appeals to them as a form of social control"
[BTW, still does!]
The academics from well known 'potted Ivy' universities dismissed them too!
"The only 'democracy' in the Middle East"
Ayup!
And I have a bridge to sell you... [just so happens it runs from Lower East Side to Williamsburg]...
Not to worry..."until fairly recently Christians were a minority there"
They still are, increasingly, once one leaves Bavaria, Austria and the Rhineland...
QED
it would be interesting to read your 'why' as to the Russian and Chinese support of Assad & Co. and where you see that going. Have I missed in your archive, or ?
Where are those 'drones' when we really need them?
BRAVO! One can only hope you are correct... enough of 'the Lobby'!
If one looks carefully at the photos of the Salafist backers of Morsi... they seem all to have scars on their foreheads from abrassion of pounding their heads on prayer mats... perhaps not s good sign of liberal thinking. Check it out for yourselves!
One has to lament that once again the Palestinians are less than masters of P.R.!
Where are their supporters in Lebanon, Hezbollah, the occupied West Bank, and why are they not all rioting and dividing the propaganda and IDF?
Why?
One wonders the Israelis can not see, once again, their blind stupidity and arrogance... the shear arrogance of being self-proclaimed 'God's Chosen' as a perpetual source of so called 'Anti-Semitism'...
Personally, I am no fan of the Islamification of this part of Eurabia [Berlin / Scandinavia] but the Jewish mentality 'takes the cake'! QED
Thank you for the clip of my [also sadly] old MIT professor!
How long must the US population submit to being blackmailed by AIPAC & Co.?
Has BHO a bit more freedom of [in- ? :-(] action now?
Hmmm... as a US ex-pat resident of choice in former 'East-Berlin', [having fled the US 10 years ago] and now living on the edge of still extant parts of 'the Wall', one can not but wonder at the lack of perception of these new fascist US 'Wall-Builders'... lotsa luck, if it's not already too late.
Those advocating blockade, which really bears most on the least affluent, should reflect upon the results of the [primarily] British driven blockade of Germany after WWi and what it led to politically within 10 years... [some would call it 'The Holocaust']
Done!
I've been reading 'Mormon America' and am fascinated by the parallels between Founders Smith and Young and Mohammed: Multiple wives, mysterious unverifiable 'divine revelation' of a book they must write down [transcribe] and marriage to 'women',,, er, girls... of 12 and 14 years age...
Ahh... the 'Religion of Pieces' ;-)
Reverting to a prior post... why not a drone with Assad's name on it? Really! It would save a lot of lives... possibly... and it's hard to see the 'downside'...
j.
thank you for the daily ration of Khayyam!
d.
Possibly wrong, but don't I remember CITGO being a Venezuelan company today [ayup, the same CITGO as that great historically protected neon sign in Boston] and an active provider of home heating oil at reduced prices for New Englanders under a Kennedy family initiative? Is this a baby to be thrown out with the bath water?
BRAVO, and again thank you!
Merry Christmas, Cheery Chanukah, Salubrious Solstice, God Jul and as we say here [translated]: "A good slide into 2012"!
Which Lieberman/Liebermann the one from CT or the one from the 'USSR'... ;-) ?
Here the young Turk and Arab Muslim women, often direct-imported cousins are, just as their Haredim/Halakah and Born-again Christian counterparts, denied birth control... so the most common sight is a pregnant woman in her 20's, in Naqib, trundling a 'doublewide' baby carriage. And no self-respecting male of her family would consider it within his dignity to help her! QED
Apropos '50% of this year's kindergarteners'...
we're already seeing the 'end-time' here in Germany. A hundred yards from my 'house' here in 'the East' is the old wall line. It's now the southern border of the largest zone of 'EUrabia'... dominated by Turks and Arabs, complete with their own gang systems, mini 'mosquettes', and their apartment balconies readily identifiable by the satellite dishes.
The rest of us either use the 'net or TV. But there was a quirk case of German constitutional law [something to do with history makes a lot of German law 'über-P.C.'] that all residents were entitled to receive news in their native language. The unfortunate results is the lack of acculturation [as noted previously] of the kids arriving in the public schools from Islamic families, were the mother is not permitted out of the house on her own, has no contact with the culture or language of her residential country, and thus can not prepare her kids for a successful participation in the place they live.
The kids are therefore last in line for jobs, other than Halal fast food service, for which they might otherwise qualify. This leads to anger and frustration. Plus, not to mention, no access to their peer group women, and no tolerance of homosexual relatonships either.
'The West' thought in the late 60's the best source of cheap labor to replace a population of young workers decimated in the war was Turkey. Now into the 3rd - and willfully unitegratable generation as noted.
Thank you for the link to "talk2action.org". Very worth reading!
Ah, the irony of it all...
I moved here from Andover, MA where about 1/3 of our Unitarian Congregation was of 'Reform' heritage... a group that would not be counted on as 'Jews' in Israel... hence no rights a citizens... add in the 'Conservative' Jews, same 'not welcome'...
Then Juan your statistics on the make-up of school age populations is a certain 'deal-breaker' for the young families in US/Canada featured in the rather 'numb' ads: who would want to take their young kids and subject them to such a class make-up... a terrible learning situation [please don't be offended, Juan] that we see here as the 'white' families of young school age kids are increasingly pulling them out of schools overrun with students of 'non-German' [euphemism for Turk and Arab kids who can't learn as they do not have the basic language and cultural skills of the community where they live]... The same would obtain in Israel. Who wants to use their kids as 'Guinea Pigs'?
But to push this one degree further, even the Israeli Haredim's right-flank will not participate in the responsibilities of citizenship when there, and the 'trouble-makers' in Brooklyn consider Aliyah 'unclean'... go figure!
Ah, the ways to 'shoot-one's-self-in-the-foot' as a society, perfected by Israel's ever more reactionary leadership and legislation.
QED
Without a doubt, the most 'pushy' arrogant, 'chip-on-the-shoulder' tourists here in Berlin [and living in 'Mitte' we're overrun with tourists, so have a sound comparative 'base'... are without a doubt the Israelis. QED
Let me humbly suggest that the letter be posted as a comment on the HAARETZ site. It would be a positive addition! [and that's
NOT 'snark']
Most frightening is the 'militarization' of the so-called SWAT and 'riot' police in the USA which are being used in suppression of dissent [O.W.S.] only a few steps behind Egypt and Syria [both using US supplied equipment BTW]...
Elect the Republican candidate and kiss your --- [remaining constitutional freedoms] 'Good by'
Footnote: I recently completed re-reading John dosPassos 'USA'... and one sees little has changed in the internal use of repressive power in the USA in 100 years!
So now I move on to Jack London's 'Iron Heel'... 'Le plus ce change, le plus ca rest la meme'
Interesting comment to one whose PEI dad fought in the Canadian Army in WWI and [correctly] always believed Canada [and the US] were on the wrong side in that one... [reflect a bit on the meanings and possibilities of that]...
The current ever farther right government in Ottawa is as hell-bend as ever a Bush was...
"Religion of Piece(s)" 13 - The rest of us 0 and counting...
@ william james martin
Thanks for the lucid timeline!
Nice to see a civilized, not totally polarized discussion forming, that is more reasoned as in TNR and not the 'he said, she said' of HAARETZ.
@ Juan
Thanks for the forum, on-line feed-back notices *** and the active participation!
Can you, hopefully, provide documentation of how the 91 congressmen's expenses to/from/in Israel were paid for... THAT would be incredibly effective journalism... good hunting!
Why?
your maps the past few days have been really excellent and helpful. thanks!
I have been wondering too. Not just 'storing'...
Very moving. Thanks!
'Crowd control' equipment all paid for and supplied by the US as price for making nice with Israel, the elephant in the room, and for unimpeded access to Suez Canal and Egypt's airspace...
Where are the WOMEN?
This is real Islam, not Tunsia...
thank you SO much for the full 'hour' of the show!
private note follows...
Constitutional Crisis Unfolds
"the political wrangling is interminable, the apparatus of state is paralyzed"
are you sure you mean Iraq and not the USA?